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Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pls

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:47 pm
by Northern Lass
Got the death certificate for Jane Severns
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=623803

but got a query on the informant who is she? And why Flavell...is there a marriage please that fits?
B. Flavell down as dau.
Now she might be this Alice Beartie Curnock aged 30 in 1911
so not dau of Jane Severns at all.

address is 2 Canal Side Breardon Cross Kings norton in 1931

Could someone add the info to Bcc pls re the death certif for Jane Severns to help others researching pls.
7th September 1931
Died- 1a Raddle Barn Road Selly Oak
Jane Curnock
Female
74 years
87 Lifford Cottages Kings Norton-widow of George Curnock a Carpenter (Journeyman)
Cause of death- Myocardial degeneration and Senility
informant- B. Flavell daughter 2 Canal Side Breardon Cross Kings Norton

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:11 pm
by peterd
what does the 1939 registry say for 2 canal side?

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:39 pm
by gardener
peterd wrote:what does the 1939 registry say for 2 canal side?



There is this chap, wife and child

Harvey H Bryan 1890
1 Canalside, Kings Norton, Birmingham
Birmingham C.B.
Warwickshire
England

Could someone with access look around that entry and see if there is a Flavell nearby?

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:25 am
by kdwoodie
No 2 Canal side is Elizabeth Hall

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:08 am
by Northern Lass
What I don't get is if this is Alice Beatrice Curnock why is there no marriage to a Flavell.

It is deffo B. Flavell as informant. and it does say daughter.

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:04 pm
by Jimmy
Someone on Ancestry as Alice B Curnock with father George marrying a William Taylor.

TAYLOR, EDMUND JOHN CURNOCK. died 1916.
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in BROMYARD Volume 06A Page 810.

Marriages Jun 1915.
Curnock Alice B Taylor. Cirencester. 6a. 1047.
Taylor William W. Curnock Cirencester. 6a. 1047.

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:53 pm
by kdwoodie
I don't think that is the right Alice.

Could it be Breedon Cross ?

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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:18 pm
by Jimmy
If William Taylor was in the army it would fit, there was an army base on Bromyard Downs.

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:08 am
by kdwoodie
Name Alice Beatrice Cornuck
Event Type Baptism
Baptism Date13 Dec 1882
Baptism Place Gloucester, St Luke, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears St Luke
Father Thomas Cornuck
Mother Ezizabeth Cornuck

CORNUCK, ALICE  BEATRICE  KEMMETT  GRO Reference: 1882  D Quarter in GLOUCESTER  Volume 06A  Page 308

Name Alice Beatrice Curnock
Gender Female
Baptism Date 8 Jul 1881
Baptism Place St. Andrew's, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father George Curnock
Mother Anna Maria
FHL Film Number1517619
Reference IDitem 13 p 21

CURNOCK, ALICE  BEATRICE  GEE  GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 06B  Page 698

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:27 am
by Northern Lass
So if it says Daughter on the death certif it must be the Alice Beatrice curnock with mother Anna Maria Gee
so b 1880

but no marriage to a Flavell that I can see.
:?

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:54 am
by kdwoodie
Wrong name but found this


Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Kate Flavell
Residence Year 1922
Ward or Division/Constituency Kings Norton
Street Address 1545 Vale cottages, Breedon Cross
Residence Place Birmingham, West Midlands, England

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:31 pm
by Jimmy
Could someone with access check this out please,

1921. Walsall.
Alice Beatrice Carnock. 1880. Walsall.
Annie,
George 1851.
and 2 others are on this record.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:37 pm
by gardener
Northern Lass wrote:So if it says Daughter on the death certif it must be the Alice Beatrice curnock with mother Anna Maria Gee
so b 1880

but no marriage to a Flavell that I can see.
:?



Of course there is no "must be" about this. It is also possible that Jane had a daughter with an unknown person, and the kid could have any surname in the world, and then married a Flavell. Shame we don't have a first name.
I tried looking at all B Flavell births in the time period, in case she was unmarried still in 1931, and they all seem to be Beatrice or Bertha, with a Betsy or two. But I did not find any with mother Severns.

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:47 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Could someone with access check this out please,

1921. Walsall.
Alice Beatrice Carnock. 1880. Walsall.
Annie,
George 1851.
and 2 others are on this record.


Alice Beatrice's brother.

CURNOCK, WILLIAM CHARLES GEE.
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 552.

Marriages Jun 1908.
BROOKES Rosannah. Walsall 6b 1284.
CURNOCK William Charles. Walsall 6b 1284.

CURNOCK, GEORGE WILLIAM BROOKES.
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 261.

CURNOCK, ROSE ANNIE BROOKES.
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 1074.

Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 4:24 pm
by Jimmy
Could this be Alice Beatrice,

Alice B Curnock.
Arthur Emery.
Registration Date Jul 1934
Registration district Walsall.
Inferred County Staffordshire.

1939. Brick Yard, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire.
Alice B Emery. 13 Aug 1880. Widow.
Laura L Shaw.
William E Brown.

EMERY, ALICE BEATRICE age 62.
GRO Reference: 1942 S Quarter in CHEADLE Volume 06B Page 272.