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				Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:49 am
				by Robyn
				Hello,
I have a mystery person turn up in my family tree and I'm not sure who his mother is.  His name is Rupert Edward Schneider Hills.  His birth registered in December quarter of 1895 in Samford, Suffolk.  I'm wondering if his mother had him before she married.  Looking for help please as to who his mother might be.  Thank you.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:15 pm
				by Jimmy
				HILLS, RUPERT  EDWARD SCHNEIDER. no mothers maiden name.
GRO Reference: 1895  D Quarter in SAMFORD  Volume 04A  Page 822.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:23 pm
				by Jimmy
				Looks like Mary Ann Hills is the mother.
1911. 2 Rosaline Villas, Cobbold Road, Felixstowe, Suffolk.
Henry Hills	62.	Head. widower. jobbing gardener.
Mary Ann Hills	38.	Daughter. Single.
Rupert Edward Snider Hills	15.	Grand Son (Grandson).
All born Raydon, Suffolk
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:32 pm
				by Jimmy
				1901. Salvation Army Barracks, Raydon, Suffolk.
Henry Hills	52.	thatcher.
Maria Hills	58.	Wife.
Mary Ann Hills	28.	Daughter. Holton St Mary, Suffolk.
Rubert E S Hills	5.	Grandson.
Others born Raydon, Suffolk.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:08 pm
				by Jimmy
				HILLS, MARY  ANN  	CLARK.  
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in SAMFORD  Volume 04A  Page 618.
Marriages Dec 1870.
CLARK	 Maria.	 	 Sudbury	 4a.	877.	  
HILLS	 Henry.	 	 Sudbury	 4a.	877.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:29 pm
				by Robyn
				Thank you for your help Jimmy.  There are a number of Hill children in the 1891 Census that don't seem to be with their parents in 1901.  I wonder if sisters Mary Ann and Hannah Maria Hills both aged 18 in 1891 are twins.  Could Hannah be the mother of Rupert rather than Mary Ann?
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:32 pm
				by Jimmy
				She could be.
You would need the birth certificate to be sure.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:48 pm
				by Robyn
				Thank you for your help Jimmy.  Seems as though it will be a certificate to be sure.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:51 pm
				by Jimmy
				I can't see a baptism, the mother could be 1 of 4.
1891. Upper Street, Raydon, Suffolk.
Henery Hills	42.	Thatcher.
Maria Hills	46.	
Mary Ann Hills	18.	Daughter.
Hannah Hills	18.	Daughter.
Amilia Hills	14.	Daughter.
Eda Hills	10.	Daughter.
Henery Hills	13.	Son.
Berburn Hills	13.	Son.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:57 pm
				by Jimmy
				Someone as a family tree that as Hannah Amelia Hills as his mother.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:06 pm
				by Jimmy
				It looks like they are twins.
HILLS, HANNAH    	CLARK.  
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in SAMFORD  Volume 04A  Page 618.
HILLS, MARY  ANN  	CLARK.  
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in SAMFORD  Volume 04A  Page 618.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:06 pm
				by Robyn
				Hi Jimmy,
Someone sent me a message on Family Search saying the mother was Hannah Hills found on the baptism record on FindmyPast.  I don't subscribe to FMP and I can't find a baptism on FS.  I gathered Hannah and Mary Ann were twins because I found the birth reg on Freebmd.  Thank you as always for helping.  Robyn.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:52 pm
				by Jimmy
				Robyn I  have sent you a pm.
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:56 pm
				by kdwoodie
				First name(s) Rupert Edward Schneider
Father's occupation Domestic Servant
Last name Hills
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Baptism year 1896
Residence Raydon
Baptism date 12 Jan 1896
Notes bn 10 Oct 1895
Parish St Mary
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 4)
Place Raydon
Entry number 251
County Suffolk
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Relationship Son
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) -
Collections from England, Great Britain
			 
			
					
				Re: Birth and Mother's maiden name
				Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:29 pm
				by Jimmy
				kdwoodie wrote:First name(s) Rupert Edward Schneider
Father's occupation Domestic Servant
Last name Hills
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Baptism year 1896
Residence Raydon
Baptism date 12 Jan 1896
Notes bn 10 Oct 1895
Parish St Mary
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 4)
Place Raydon
Entry number 251
County Suffolk
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Relationship Son
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) -
Collections from England, Great Britain
Thanks kdw I have already sent that to Robyn in a pm, wasn't sure if I could post it.