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Florence unknown on BCC.

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Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 08 Dec 1901.
Henry York ASHMAN. 21. bachelor. Miner. 107 Salop St. Dudley. John ASHMAN. Miner.
Florence FROGGATT. 19. spinster. 107 Salop St. Dudley. Charles FROGGATT. Tobacconist.
Witness 1 Charles FROGGATT.
Witness 2 Annie ASHMAN.

1911. 53 Exmouth St Birkenhead.
George Froggatt. 57. widow. Green grocer. Bitterley, Shropshire.
Henry Ashman 30. Son-in-law. General labourer. Netherton.
Florry Ashman 29. Daughter. married 8 years, 3 children 1 died.
Thomas Ashman 7. Grandson.
Albert Ashman 2. Grandson.
Others born Dudley.

1939.
May Willetts.
[May Asman].
Marital Status: Single.
Birth Date: 26 May 1910.
Address: Sandfield Hospital s*@ Wordsley..
Residence Place: Brierly Hill, Staffordshire.
Occupation: Ward Sister Trained ??.

I can't see anything on Richard Asman / Ashman any where,

Dudley St Edmund.
Baptism date 01 Jun 1882.
Florence FROGGATT.
Father Charles FROGGATT.
Mother Sarah.
Person abode Dudley.
Father occupation Hosier.

Henry Ashman is on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... 1509ASHMAN,

HENRY YORKE SWANE.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 116.

I cant find a birth for Richard.

This is what i have found so far

Name: Henry Ashman
Gender: Male
Enlistment Age: 34
Birth Place: Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Military Date: 1914
Relationship to Soldier: Self (Head)
Regimental Number: 9265
Regiment Name: Special Ras
Number of Images: 25
Form Title: Short Service Attestation

Pension Ledger
Name: Henry Ashman
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Record Type: Card
Death Date: 1 Aug 1916
Service Number: 9265
Corps, Regiment or Unit: 3rd Worcestershire
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Ashcroft W-Ashton H
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Florence Ashman
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 May 1882
Residence Place: Dudley
Relation to Soldier: Widow
Thomas Yorkld Ashman Child Birth Date: 22 Nov 1903
Albert Ashman Children Birth Date : 13 Feb 1909
Daniel Aurtine Children Birth Date : 14 Apr 1913
Samuel Stone Ashman Children Birth Date : 5 Jun 1914

Name Henry Ashman
Birth Place Netherton, Worcs
Residence Birkenhead
Death Date 1 Aug 1916
Death Place France and Flanders
Enlistment Place Worcester
Rank Private Worcestershire Regiment
Battalion 3rd Battalion
Regimental Number 9265
Type of Casualty Killed in action
Theatre of War Western European Theatre

C W G C
Name H Ashman
Gender Male
Death Date 1 Aug 1916
Cemetery Knightsbridge Cemetery, Mesnil-Martinsart
Burial Country France
Regiment Worcestershire Regiment
Regimental Number 9265
Region or Memorial France


1921
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Florence Ashman Head Female 1883 38 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Home Duties -
Thomas Y Ashman Son Male 1904 17 Dudley, Worcestershire, England General Labourer (Out Of Work) Mr Baker Furniture Dealer
Albert Ashman Son Male 1909 12 Dudley, Worcestershire, England - -
Daniel A Ashman Son Male 1913 8 Dudley, Worcestershire, England - -
Samuel S Ashman Son Male 1914 7 Dudley, Worcestershire, England - -
Florence M Ashman Daughter Female 1918 2 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England -
Person making return Mrs Ashman
Other household member's last name Ashman
House number 53
Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales
Street Exmouth Street
Category Census, land & surveys
Address 53 Exmouth Street
Subcategory Census
Full address as transcribed 53 Exmouth Street, Birkenhead
Collections from Great Britain, England
Parish Birkenhead


ASHMAN, THOMAS YORK FROGGATT
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 103

ASHMAN, CHARLES AUSTIN FROGGATT
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 137
Deaths Jun 1906
Ashman Charles Austin 0 Dudley 6c 55

ASHMAN, ALBERT FROGGATT
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 133

ASHMAN, DANIEL AUSTIN FROGGATT
GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 2116

ASHMAN, SAMUEL SLONE FROGGALT
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 2106

ASHMAN, FLORENCE MARGARET FROGGATT
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 667


Florence Margaret was born after Henry had died .

This marriage for John Ashman needs checking,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877.
ASHMAN John. SLONE Ann. 1877. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/006/443.

Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 20 Dec 1877.
John ATKINSON. Full age. Netherton. bachelor. Miner. Joseph ATKINSON. Miner.
Ann SLONE. Full age. Netherton. spinster. Samuel SLONE. Spade Moulder.
Witness 1 David MACKAY.
Witness 2 Eliza DANKS.

It looks to me that Richard was adopted.

Free BMD

This entry was created from the following transcriptions:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
Marriages Dec 1877
Ashman John Dudley 6c 16 AJDUK
ASHMAN John Dudley 6c 16 AndrewDavison

Postems for this entry:
01/10/2013 married Ann SLOANE
[paul07.morgan@gmail.com]

Jimmy wrote:Henry Ashman is on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... 1509ASHMAN,

HENRY YORKE SWANE.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 116.

I wonder why this is Swane and not Slone.

Probably just a mistake

ASHMAN, SAMUEL SLOANE
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 105

ASHMAN, DANIEL AUSTIN SLOANE
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 110

ASHMAN, ELIZABETH ELSIE SLOANE
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 121

1881.
Charles Frogatt 27. Macket Salesman Of Hosiery. Bitterley, Shropshire.
Sarah Frogatt 26. Ryton, Shropshire.
William C. Frogatt 6. son. Bloxwich.
George H. Frogatt 4. Son. Dudley.
Margaret A. Frogatt 1. Daughter. Dudley.

1891. Green Man Entry, Dudley.
Charles Froggatt 37. married. Haberdashery general dealer. Ludlow.
Margaret Froggatt 76. widow. Mother. Llangunllo, Radnorshire.
William C Froggatt 16. Son. Bloxwich.
George H Froggatt 14. Son. Dudley.
Margaret A Froggatt 11. Daughter. Dudley.
Horry Froggatt 8. Daughter. Florry. Dudley.

1901. 107 Salop Street. Dudley.
Charles Froggatt 47. married. Tobbaconist. Bitterley, Shropshire.
Margaret Froggatt 21. Daughter. Dudley.
Florrie Froggatt 18. Daughter. Dudley.

FROGGATT, WILLIAM CHARLES MORRIS.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 700.

FROGGETT, GEORGE HENRY MORRIS.
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 132.

FROGGETT, MARGARET MORRIS.
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 109.

FROGGATT, FLORENCE MOMS.
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 143.

Marriages Mar 1873.
FROGGATT Charles. Atcham. 6a. 1201.
Hodges Mary. Atcham. 6a. 1201.
JAMESON John. Atcham. 6a. 1201.
Mapp George. Atcham. 6a. 1201.
MORRIS Sarah. Atcham. 6a. 1201.
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I have posted this marriage for recheck,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877.
ASHMAN John. SLONE Ann. 1877. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/006/443.

Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 20 Dec 1877.
John ATKINSON. Full age. Netherton. bachelor. Miner. Joseph ATKINSON. Miner.
Ann SLONE. Full age. Netherton. spinster. Samuel SLONE. Spade Moulder.
Witness 1 David MACKAY.
Witness 2 Eliza DANKS.

Something doesn't feel right to me.

I think John Ashman who married Ann Sloane is the son of Joseph Ashman and Elizabeth Russon here on BCC https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=611556

ASHMAN, JOHN RUSSON
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 123

Freereg
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 309
Marriage date 13 Jun 1842
Joseph ASHMAN full age Miner Dudley Samuel ASHMAN Miner, deceased
Elizabeth RUSSON minor Dudley Joseph RUSSON Nailor
Witness 1 Thomas DUNN
Witness 2 Esther ASHMAN
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X

1861 Netherton Hill Dudley
Joseh Ashman 41 Head Mar Coal Miner
Elizabeth Ashman 39 Wife Mar
Joseph Ashman 16 Son Un Stone MIner
Samuel James Ashman 13 Son Un Stone MIner
Thomas Ashman 11 Son Un Railway Pin? Maker
Daniel Ashman 10 Son Un Railway Pin? Maker
John Ashman 7 Son Scholar
Esther Ashman 5 Daughter Scholar
Eliza Jane Ashman 2 Daughter
George Ashman 3/12 Son
All born Dudley

1871 Hall Street Dudley
Joseph Ashman 51 Head Mar Coal Miner
Elisabeth Ashman 49 Wife Mar
Daniel Ashman 20 Son Unm Bricklayers Lab
John Ashman 17 Son Unm Coal Miner
Esther Ashman 15 Daughter Unm Nail Maker
Elisa Ashman 13 Daughter
Elisabeth Ashman 8 Daughter Scholar
Matthew Ashman 6 Son Scholar
All Born Netherton

Marriage rechecked by NL thanks NL,

From Transcript.
1877 20-Dec
John Atkinson F B Miner Netherton Joseph Atkinson Miner
Ann Slone F S Netherton Samuel Slone Spade Moulder
W itnesses David Mackay. Eliza Danks

So where did WMBMD get this from,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877.
ASHMAN John. SLONE Ann. 1877. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/006/443.

Marriage for Samuel Sloane,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=611605

SLOANE, ANN YORK.
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 134.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 27 Oct 1851.
Samuel SLOANE. 23. Spade Moulder. Burnt Tree. John SLOANE. Miner.
Margaret Elizabeth YORK. 20. Burnt Tree. Henry George YORK. Miner.
Witness 1 Edward HENDY.
Witness 2 Sarah HENDY.
Notes Groom, Bride & Witness 2 sign X.

kdwoodie wrote:Free BMD

This entry was created from the following transcriptions:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
Marriages Dec 1877
Ashman John Dudley 6c 16 AJDUK
ASHMAN John Dudley 6c 16 AndrewDavison

Postems for this entry:
01/10/2013 married Ann SLOANE
[paul07.morgan@gmail.com]

The marriage that Northern Lass checked is a transcription, i think it has been mistranscribed.