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"Complete"Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:44 pm
by mumbles
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =138470699

Daniel Jones appears to have a number of children before marriage to Mary Sweetman and children after 1867 ( Henry born 1867 is Eber on GRO ) are on GRO with mother Salisbury .

in select marriages
we have 25/12/1873 St. Thomas Dudley Worcs,
Daniel Jones and Mary Sweetman or Salisbury

Also with marriage of son George there is crossing out of Salisbury and replaced with Jones
Marriage Details Looked up at Archives by RF : 23 Nov 1884 St Paul`s Church, Blackheath
George Salisbury, 22, B, Nailer of Bloomfield Street, Halesowen, Father Daniel or David Salisbury (Salisbury is crossed out and replaced with Jones), Nailer
Phoebe Hackett, 23, S, Nailer, of Spring Hill, Halesowen, Father Charles Hackett, Bricklayer
Wit : Samuel Downing and Agnes Dora Downing

Also on 1861 Census we have a daughter Ann Hemus ?
1861 : Woodgate, Northfield, Worcs
Daniel Jones, Head, 29, Nail Maker
Mary Jones, Wife, 30, Nail Maker
Ann Hemus, Daur, 9, Scholar
Ellen Jones, Daur, 5, Scholar
Harriet Jones, Daur, 3, Scholar
Ruth Jones, Daur, 1
All Born in Halesowen

All needs further investigation

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:48 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Red Hill, Halesowen.
Joseph Salesbury 30. ag lab.
Harriot Salesbury 30.
Mary Salesbury 10.
Ellen Salesbury 8.
Joseph Salesbury 4.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:04 pm
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy , That is a good start

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:24 pm
by Jimmy
Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 14 Nov 1830.
Joseph SALISBURY. Dudley. bachelor.
Harriott SHILVOCK. Dudley. spinster.
Witness 1 Thomas ALLEN.
Witness 2 William TAYLOR.
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.

SALISBURY, JOHN SHILVORK.
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in BROMSGROVE UNION Volume 18 Page 220.

SALSBURY, MARTHA SHILVOCK.
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 06C Page 349.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:24 pm
by Jimmy
Living next door to Daniel And Mary.

1871. Stourbridge Road, Hasbury.
Joseph Salisbury 66. Disabled ag lab.
Harriet Salisbury 61.
Martha Salisbury 19. Daughter.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:30 pm
by Jimmy
1851 can't see them but Mary is a servant at Arley.

1861. Short Cross, Hasbury.
Joseph Salisbury 53. Hay cutter. Stratford.
Harriet Salisbury 51.
John Salisbury 19. Son.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:37 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Carters Lane, Halesowen.
William Jones 60. nailer.
Mary Jones 50.
Pheby Jones 20.
Joseph Jones 15.
Caroline Jones 14.
Thomas Jones 13.
Danniel Jones 11.
George Jones 6.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:22 am
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy ,
Only Hiccup is this marriage which has father as John rather than Joseph

Freereg marriage 14/6/1852 St. Thomas Dudley
Thomas Sweatman (wid) Labourer Dudley father Thomas Sweatman Labourer Dec.
Mary Sailbury Sp. Dudley father John Salisbury Labourer
Witnesses :- Charlotte Wood & Henry Sweatman

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:43 am
by Jimmy
1841 census it might be that Joseph is a relative not father

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:03 pm
by Jimmy
From Familysearch, the only one, can't see any evidence of John Salisbury.

http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/igi/fs-sal.htm

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.

Mary Salisbury.
Father's Joseph Salisbury.
Mother's Harriet.
Event Type Christening.
Event Date 30 Oct 1831.
Event Place Halesowen, Worcestershire.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:37 pm
by mumbles
Found missing 1851 Census and 1881 Census ( living next door to daughter Martha Salisbury

1851 Census Hollis Farm Halesowen Hunnington Bromsgrove Worcs.
Joseph Kilbury Head 45 Ag. Lab.
Harrot Kilbury wife 40
Joseph Kilbury son 13 Scholar
John Kilbury son 9
All born Worcs.
Note :- mistranscribed as original lloks like Salisbury

1881 Census Hawne Lane Hawn Stourbridge Worcs. Halesowen Hunnington Bromsgrove Worcs.
Joseph Salisbury Head 77 Retired Hay Dealer
Harriet Kilbury wife 71
All born Halesowen Worcs.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:30 pm
by Jimmy
Joseph's son John.

SALISBURY, ANN ELIZABETH WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 65.

SALISBURY, MARY WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in ULVERSTON Volume 08E Page 698.

SALISBURY, LUCY WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E.

1871. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis.
John Salisbury 29. Labourer. Halesowen.
Sarah Salisbury 30. Tipton.
Anne E Salisbury 8. Daughter. Tipton.
William Salisbury 5. Son. Tipton.
Joseph Salisbury 1. Son. Rowley Regis.

1881. 16 Hawke Street,
John Salisbury 39. Foundry Labourer. Halesowen.
Sarah Salisbury 41. Penn, Staffordshire.
Annie E. Salisbury 18. Daughter. Gospel End.
William Salisbury 15. Son. Gospel End.
Joseph Salisbury 11. Son. Gospel End.
Mary Salisbury 9. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Jessie Salisbury 6. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Harriet Salisbury 4. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Lucy Salisbury 2. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
SALISBURY John. WHITTON Sarah. 1861. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/020/247.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:37 pm
by Jimmy
Joseph's son John.

SALISBURY, ANN ELIZABETH WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 65.

SALISBURY, MARY WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in ULVERSTON Volume 08E Page 698.

SALISBURY, LUCY WHITTON.
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E.

1871. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis.
John Salisbury 29. Labourer. Halesowen.
Sarah Salisbury 30. Tipton.
Anne E Salisbury 8. Daughter. Tipton.
William Salisbury 5. Son. Tipton.
Joseph Salisbury 1. Son. Rowley Regis.

1881. 16 Hawke Street,
John Salisbury 39. Foundry Labourer. Halesowen.
Sarah Salisbury 41. Penn, Staffordshire.
Annie E. Salisbury 18. Daughter. Gospel End.
William Salisbury 15. Son. Gospel End.
Joseph Salisbury 11. Son. Gospel End.
Mary Salisbury 9. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Jessie Salisbury 6. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Harriet Salisbury 4. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.
Lucy Salisbury 2. Daughter. Barrow, Lancashire.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1861.
SALISBURY John. WHITTON Sarah. 1861. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/020/247.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:16 pm
by Jimmy
Joseph's daughter Ellen.

Ancestry, image available,

John Rose. 27. bachelor. Farmer. David Rose. Farmer.
Ellen Salisbury. age 22. spinster. Joseph Salisbury. Labourer.
Marriage Date: 1 Oct 1855.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Thomas, Warwickshire.

1861. Ladywood, Birmingham.
John Rose 32. General labourer. Northfield.
Ellen Rose 28. Redhill, Worcs.
Maryann Rose 3. Daughter. Birmingham.
Louisa Rose 9/12. Daughter. Birmingham.

1881. 1 Primrose Place, Ladywood.
John Rose 51. Journeyman Refiner (Metal). Northfield.
Ellen Rose 47. Halesowen.
Harriet Rose 14. Daughter. Birmingham.
John Rose 11. Son. Birmingham.
Alfred Rose 9. Son. Birmingham.
Ellen Rose 2. Daughter. Birmingham.

ROSE, LOUISA SALISBURY.
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 4.

ROSE, HARRIET SALISBURY.
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 15.

ROSE, ELLEN SALISBURY.
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 34.

Re: Mary Unknown married to Daniel Jones

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:19 pm
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy I have added a lot of details.
Any Idea where Ann Hemus fits into picture as I cannot see how she connects to Daniel Jones or Mary Salisbury