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Completed. Jo adding. Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:11 pm
by Jimmy
Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=603331JONES, EDWARD blank born before marriage.
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 193.
KNOWLES, MARIA JANE JONES.
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 193.
KNOWLES, JAMES JONES.
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 150.
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 10 Apr 1860.
James KNOWLES. 24. bachelor. Hammer Maker. The Lye. Edward KNOWLES. Nail maker.
Lucy JONES. 23. spinster. The Lye. Maria JONES. Nail Maker.
Witness 1 Adam ROUND.
Witness 2 Thomas COGZELL.
Notes By Banns. Both made a mark.In section fot Father's name and surname "Daughter of Maria JONES".
Oldswinford St Mary.
Baptism date 29 Nov 1835.
Lucy JONES.
Mother Maria JONES.
Person abode Bawden's Green.
Notes Mother a single woman.
1841. Oldnall Lane, Hales Owen.
Joseph Jones 50. nailer
Ann Jones 45.
Esther Jones 21.
Lebra Jones 15.
Eliza Jones 12.
Henry Jones 7.
Lucy Jones 5.John Jones 10 Mo.
1851. Waste Bank, Wollescote.
Joseph Jones 61. nail forger.
Ann Jones 60.
Sabrough Jones 25. dau.
Henry Jones 17. son.
Lucy Jones 15. grand dau.Sarah A Jones 3. grand dau.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:18 pm
by mjay
I've started adding Jimmy.
Am i right in thinking this is Maria's parents/Lucy's grandparents ?
1841. Oldnall Lane, Hales Owen.
Joseph Jones 50. nailer
Ann Jones 45.
Esther Jones 21.
Lebra Jones 15.
Eliza Jones 12.
Henry Jones 7.
Lucy Jones 5.
John Jones 10 Mo.
1851. Waste Bank, Wollescote.
Joseph Jones 61. nail forger.
Ann Jones 60.
Sabrough Jones 25. dau.
Henry Jones 17. son.
Lucy Jones 15. grand dau.
Sarah A Jones 3. grand dau.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:18 pm
by Jimmy
That's what I think.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:55 pm
by mjay
Jimmy I've had a quick look and there are a few a possibilities for Maria Jones born between 1812 & 1817 with parents of Joseph and Ann Jones.
And a dod for 1818 which might explain why Lucy is living with Grandparents
I think until we can confirm. Its probably best I leave the 1841 & 1851 census off bcc
Jo need your advice
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:00 pm
by Jimmy
If she died 1818 then Lucy wouldn't of been born.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:18 pm
by mjay
Jimmy wrote:If she died 1818 then Lucy wouldn't of been born.
Oops sorry Jimmy
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:39 am
by grangers14
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:03 pm
by kdwoodie
Maria Jones
Principal
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 27 September 1812
Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Parents Joseph Jones, Ann
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:48 pm
by Jimmy
Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 7 Jul 1839.
Benjamin NEWTON. bachelor. nailer. Cradley. George NEWTON. nailer.
Maria JONES. spinster. nailer. Cradley. Joseph JONES. nailer.
Witness 1 James COLEY.
Witness 2 Esther JONES. Maria's sister.
1841. Oldswinford.
Benj Newton 35. Nailer. n.b.i.c.
Maria Newton 25.
Mary Newton 5 Mo.
Maria remarried, possibly Benjamins brother.
Oldswinford St Mary. Parish Register.
Marriage date 27 Oct 1851.
David NEWTON. 39. widower. Nail maker. The Lye. George NEWTON. nailer.
Maria NEWTON. 39. widow. The Lye. Joseph JONES. nailer maker.
Witness 1 David FINCH.
Witness 2 Sebea JONES. Maria's sister.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:54 pm
by Jimmy
Witnesses are Maria's sisters.
Ancestry, images available.
Esther Jones.
Baptism Date: 8 Oct 1820.
Baptism Place: Oldswinford, Worcestershire.
Father: Joseph Jones. nailer.
Mother: Ann Jones.
Sebra Jones.
Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1825.
Baptism Place: Oldswinford, Worcestershire
Father: Joseph Jones. nailer.
Mother: Ann Jones.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:59 pm
by Jimmy
Maria's sisters marriages,
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 01 Oct 1844.
Samuel BINGHAM. 23. bachelor. Nailer. John BINGHAM. Nailer.
Esther JONES. 24. spinster. Nailer. Joseph JONES. Nailer.
Witness 1 Joseph WYATT.
Witness 2 Caroline HAMLET.
Notes The bride, groom and both witnesses signed with a mark.
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 10 Apr 1860.
William ROUND. 23. bachelor. Vice Maker. Richard ROUND. Nail Maker.
S[ea]br JONES. 32. spinster. Joseph JONES. Nail Maker.
Witness 1 Adam ROUND.
Witness 2 Thomas COGZELL.
Notes By Banns. Groom signed Bride made a mark.
Re: Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:18 pm
by grangers14
I will add this.
Re: Jo adding. Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:38 pm
by grangers14
I have been adding
Connected Samuel Bingham here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=42910900No census added yet...
Re: Jo adding. Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 1:58 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Dudley Rod, Lye.
Samuel Bingham 30. nailer.
Esther Bingham 30.
John Bingham 10. Son.
All born Oldswinford.
1861. Green Lane, Lye.
Samuel Bingham 40. nail maker.
Esther Bingham 40.
John Bingham 20. Son.
Joseph Bingham 19. Visitor.
Sarrah Jones 14. Niece. Wollascote.
Others born Lye
1871. Spring Street, Green Lane, Lye.
Samuel Bingham 50. Nailer Heavely ????
Esther Bingham 50.
John Bingham 29. Son
Esther Bingham 27. Wife.
Samuel Bingham 5. Son.
Joseph Bingham 2. Son.
Feby Bingham. 6 months. Daughter.
All born Lye.
BINGHAM, JOHN blank.
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 456.
Re: Jo adding. Lucy unknown abt 1837 on BCC.
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 2:08 pm
by Jimmy
Son John's marriage,
Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 19 Apr 1865
John BINGHAM. Full age. Netherton. bachelor. Chainmaker. Samuel BINGHAM. Carter.
Esther PEARSON. Full age. Netherton. spinster. Edward PEARSON. Horsenailer.
Witness 1 James MACKAY.
Witness 2 John HAYWARD.
Son John and wife's children,
BINGHAM, SAMUEL PEARSON.
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 180.
BINGHAM, JOSEPH PEARSON.
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 171.
BINGHAM, PHOEBE PEARSON.
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 175.