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I've added John Henry Self to BCC - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =639615003

but for the life of me I can't find anything else

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There was a Jack Self who stood in elections in Blackheath in 1950,s and 1960,s for Labour . I remember standing outside polling booth at Holt Road with my father counting Labour voters

SELF, JOHN HENRY MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 911

Name: John Henry Self
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 28 May 1905
Baptism Place: St. Michael, South Westoe, Durham, England
Father:
John Henry Self
Mother:
Annie
FHL Film Number: 2082491
Reference ID: 80

1911 69 Stevenson South Shields
John Henry Self Head 31 Married Coal Miner Hewer Born Northumberland
Annie Self Wife 32 Married Born Hursley Durham? Married 10 Years 4 Children 3 Living 1 Died
James Self Son 10 School Born South Shields
Walter Self Son 9
John Self Son 6
James Murphy Brother in Law 26 Married Unemployed Born Spen Durham

Name: John H Self
Registration Date: Jul 1926
[Aug 1926]
[Sep 1926]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Spouse: Caroline Grey
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1261

Marriages Dec 1943
Gray Caroline Last S.Shields 10a 1471
Last James F Self S.Shields 10a 1471
Last James F Gray S.Shields 10a 1471
Self Caroline Last S.Shields 10a 1471
Marriages Dec 1943
Last James F. Self S.Shields 10a 1471
#COMMENT entry reads Self or Gray for spouse surname

On 1939 Register in same House are Willetts Family and an Ernest Self born 17/8/1919
Ernest Was born South Shields 1919 mother Murphy so was brother of John Henry Self
Caroline and John Henry must have divorced as Caroline Self married James F. Last Dec. 1943 South Shields

Electoral Register for 1945 1946 shows
64 Green lane Hill and Cakemore
John Henry Self & Clara

Ancestry,

John Henry Self. 21. single. James Self.
Annie Murphy. 21. single. Peter Murphy.
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1901.
Marriage Place: Westoe, Durham.

There was a Jack Self who stood in elections in Blackheath in 1950,s and 1960,s for Labour . I remember standing outside polling booth at Holt Road with my father counting Labour voters
mumbles

Same Jack Self as 64 Green Lane was opposite Congregational chapel ( Green Tin Building) and we used to be dropped there on a Sunday for Sunday School when my father and Jack Self went over election tactics for Arthur Moyle MP for Halesowen and Stourbridge . Think Jack was his agent and organiser of Tallymen to do unofficial vote count outside polling booths.

How fascinating Mumbles

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1923.
RUSTON Alfred A L. PARISH Clara. 1923. Blackheath, St Paul. Dudley Register Office. 012/007/37.

PARISH, CLARA ADAMS.
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 145.

Clara Parish on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=603907

1911. 342 Long Lane, Blackheath.
George Parish 30. coal miner.
Maryann Parish 30. married 10 years, 4 children 1 died.
Clara Parish 9.
George Parish 8.
William Parish 5.
all born Blackheath.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Marriage date 03 Mar 1901.
George PARISH. 20. bachelor. Collier. Oldbury Road. John PARISH. Drayman.
Mary Ann ADAMS. 20. spinster. 51 Birmingham Road. James ADAMS. Moulder.
Witness 1 Jonah ADAMS.

Mary Ann Adams is on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=603907

Ernest Self married Marjorie D. Westwood 1940 Dudley Register Office
Marjorie was actually Dorothy Marjorie Westwood

1939 Register 14 Back of Queen Street Rowley Regis Dudley
Florence Westwood born 8/6/1882 Charwoman
Lily Irene Westwood ( Peers) born 4/8/1915 Press Operator Nuts & Bolts
Dorothy M. Westwood ( Self) born 19/11/1920 Light Press Work Pen Nibs Etc.

Westwood daughters were registered as mother Scriven and Florence Scrivens parents were on BCC Richard Scriven and Mary A. Grainger
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =545455109

I can add Census details which are missing . It is complicated as there is a Florence Scriven born 1884 who was a first cousin mother Sophie Billingham ( on bcc)

I have Added all Scriven and Westwood details and connected Ernest Self to Westwood family

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=53030159

But not connected to Self family

Marriages Dec 1943
Gray Caroline Last S.Shields 10a 1471
Last James F Self S.Shields 10a 1471
Last James F Gray S.Shields 10a 1471
Self Caroline Last S.Shields 10a 1471
Marriages Dec 1943
Last James F. Self S.Shields 10a 1471
#COMMENT entry reads Self or Gray for spouse surname

Birth Dec 1946
Last Frederick J F Grey S.Shields 1a 1497

Children of John Henry Self and Caroline......

Birth Mar 1927
Self Evelyn J Gray S.Shields 10a 1336

poss...
Birth Dec 1930
Self John Cray S.Shields 10a 1249

Death
SELF, JOHN 16
GRO Reference: 1946 D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 01A Page 800

Does all that look correct do you think?

Talking to my brother and he thinks Jack Self was one of Jarrow marchers who did not return to South Shields after 1936 march

Added what I think is correct

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =772705954

Can be archived for now please