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Francis Adie (b. abt 1825 in Colton, Staffordshire) married Margaret (b. abt 1828 in Rugde, Shropshire) somewhere around 1858 if the birth of their daughter Clara Jane is anything to go by. Clara was born in Bilston in 1859: I have found an IGI entry for Clara's birth but interestingly, or is it confusingly, her parents are listed as Thomas and Margaret Adie. But who was Margaret. Can anyone shed any light on this?

I did find another IGI entry for Francis Adie marrying Margaret Birch in Colton on 29 July 1823 - could this have been Francis' (1825) mum & dad? (I have not managed to make a positive link.)

However, beware ... following Margaret's death in 1866, Francis remarries in 1878. This time it is to Margaret Ann Jones - what is it about Francis Adies and Margarets.

there is this one but which married which needs sorting

Marriages Mar 1857

Adie Frances Kidderminster 6c 228
Harrop John Ward Kidderminster 6c 228
Palmer Eleanor Kidderminster 6c 228
Thurstuns Margaret Kidderminster 6c 228

Any use Alan that Margaret one?

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I've not made any positive links with the possible Kidderminster marriage but I have turned up some new information - it's a bit convoluted so please stay with me.

In the 1881 census Henry Heynes and Clara Jane Heynes (nee Adie) have a visitor who is nominated as a cousin. Her name is Fanny Adie and she was born in Bilston ~1866.

I found Fanny again in the 1871 census: at this time she is only 5 but she is recorded as being the neice of the couple she is staying with.They are Thomas Say and Francis Say (should it be Frances being female?) but the surname is not distinct and I have not found them yet in later censuses. Thomas was born ~1821 in Worcestershire but Francis was born ~1825 in Rudge, Shropshire.

Could Francis be Margaret's sister? Is this a key to finding Margaret? ... and who were Fanny's parents?

I think this may be Thomas and Frances in 1881
Penn Wood, Upper Penn, Staffordshire
Thomas Tay, head,60, Brewers Clerk, Claines
Francis Mary, wife, 57, Salop, Rudge
Eliza Robinson, boarder, W, 52, annuitant, Claines

Possible 1861 census staying with a family called Cash
27, Alcaster Street, Deritend
Thomas Say, lodger, 40, farmer formerly, Claines
Frances Mary, wife, 36, Rudgley, Staffordshire
Thomas, son, 1, Wolverley

Thers a birth recoded for
Clara Jane Adie in Wolverhampton Jun 1859 6b 503
and also
Sarah Ann in Wolverhampton Sep 1860 6b 480
one of the girls birth certificates would give you the mothers maiden name

Northern Lass wrote:there is this one but which married which needs sorting

Marriages Mar 1857

Adie Frances Kidderminster 6c 228
Harrop John Ward Kidderminster 6c 228
Palmer Eleanor Kidderminster 6c 228
Thurstuns Margaret Kidderminster 6c 228

I have found
1861 Great Malvern Link Brewery
John W Harrop 32 Brewer
Elenor Harrop 23
Eliza A Harrop 3
Elenor Harrop 1
+ others

which might discount the other pair - Where are the Kidderminster records kept?

Also is this the right family from 1861:
Francis Adie 36
Margaret Adie 33
Clara J Adie 2
Sarah A Adie 10 Mo
Harriett Leede 18
Martha Smith 15
Joseph Smith 26
Thomas Bloor 25
Henry Dukes 20
William Baile 18

21 High Street Bilston

If it is given that he is a Grocer and Tea Dealer and supporting a family + servants + assistants+apprentices --
I was thinking he must have been a bit of a big wig and therefore his wedding would possibly have warranted being reported in the local paper!

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I think that marriage is a possible but if you want to be sure then you need the cert as has
been said
do let us know if you get it would be interesting to know if that Margaret

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I agree ...

1. I need to get a couple of certificates starting with Clara Jane's birth and possibly then the marriage cert that has been poted here

and then

2. It is probably time to archive.

okedoke gonna archive pending look ups

when you get the info pm or email me or pete and we will bring topic back