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Completed. Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:13 pm
by Jimmy
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=597867

John Carwrights 2nd marriage.

Smethwick Holy Trinity.
Marriage date 16 Nov 1876.
John CARTWRIGHT. full age. widower. Gent. Joseph CARTWRIGHT. Miner.
Elizabeth BROWNE. full age. widow. John FELTON. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 John GRIFFITHS.
Witness 2 Dinah SCOTT.
Notes Witness 2 signs X.

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:23 pm
by Jimmy
John Cartwright first marriage, the only marriage is for a Job Carwright,

Kingswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 22 May 1831.
Job CARTWRIGHT. Kingswinford.
Harriet GOUGH. Kingswinford.
Witness 1 Clara SCRIVEN.
Witness 2 Luke SCRIVEN.
Notes Groom, bride and both witnesses sign by mark.

CARTWRIGHT, EMMA GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 459.

CARTWRIGHT, RICHARD GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 442.

CARTWRIGHT, DANIELS GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 493.

CARTWRIGHT, HARRIET GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 532.

1851. Kingswinford.
John Curtwright 45. coal miner.
Hannah Curtwright 38. Harriet.
Phillip Curtwright 17.
Henry Curtwright 14.
Eden Curtwright 12.
Emma Curtwright 10.
Richard Curtwright 5.
Daniel Curtwright 2.
Harriet Curtwright 10 Mo.
All born Kingswinford.

1861. High Street, Kingswinford.
John Cortwright 54. miner.
Hariot Curtwright 49.
Richard Curtwright 16. Son.
Daniel Curtwright 12. Son.
Harriet Curtwright 10. Daughter.
All born Kingswinford.

1871. 66 Water Street, Kingswinford.
John Cartwright 68. licensed vic.
Sarah Hardwick 24. Servant.
Rachel Henley 14. Servant.

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:58 pm
by kdwoodie
Is this the same John ?

Name: John Cartwright
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1882
Inferred Death Place: Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 108

Name: John Cartwright
Death Date: 1 Jun 1882
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Probate Date: 19 Jun 1882
Probate Registry: Lichfield

CARTWRIGHT John
Personal Estate £420
19 June
The Will of John Cartwright late of Kingswinford in the County of Stafford Gentleman who died 1 June 1882 Kingswinford was proved at Lichfield by John Cartwright Miner the Son and William Thomas Abbott Schoolmaster both of Kingswinfiord the Executors

1861 Water Street Kingswinford
John Cartwright 69 Head Mar Victualler Born Kingswinford
Nancy Cartwright 55 Wife Mar Born Kingswinford
John Cartwright 23 Son Widr Miner Coal Born West Bromwich
Maria H Cartwright 11 Granddaughter Born Wednesbury
Caroline Dabs 26 Servant Unm Gen Serv Born Salop

Both ages for John Snr and Nancy crossed through and About is wiritten

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:41 pm
by Jimmy
Yes the same one.

Wordsley Holy Trinity.
Burial date 06 Jun 1882.
John CARTWRIGHT.
Person age 79y.
Burial person abode Kingswinford.

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:58 pm
by kdwoodie
1861 has 2 Johns

1861. High Street, Kingswinford.
John Cortwright 54. miner.
Hariot Curtwright 49.
Richard Curtwright 16. Son.
Daniel Curtwright 12. Son.
Harriet Curtwright 10. Daughter.
All born Kingswinford.

1861 Water Street Kingswinford
John Cartwright 69 Head Mar Victualler Born Kingswinford
Nancy Cartwright 55 Wife Mar Born Kingswinford
John Cartwright 23 Son Widr Miner Coal Born West Bromwich
Maria H Cartwright 11 Granddaughter Born Wednesbury
Caroline Dabs 26 Servant Unm Gen Serv Born Salop

Can you find a marriage for John Cartwright and Nancy Meek ?

CARTWRIGHT, JOHN MEEK
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 443

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:01 pm
by kdwoodie
West Bromwich
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 37
Marriage date 03 Feb 1823
John CARTWRIGHT West Bromwich bachelor
Ann MEEK West Bromwich spinster
Witness 1 James MEEK
Witness 2 Mary HITCH
Notes With consent of parents. Groom, bride and both witnesses sign by mark.

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:49 pm
by kdwoodie
Jimmy wrote:John Cartwright first marriage, the only marriage is for a Job Carwright,

Kingswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 22 May 1831.
Job CARTWRIGHT. Kingswinford.
Harriet GOUGH. Kingswinford.
Witness 1 Clara SCRIVEN.
Witness 2 Luke SCRIVEN.
Notes Groom, bride and both witnesses sign by mark.

CARTWRIGHT, EMMA GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 459.

CARTWRIGHT, RICHARD GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 442.

CARTWRIGHT, DANIELS GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 493.

CARTWRIGHT, HARRIET GOUGH.
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 532.

1851. Kingswinford.
John Curtwright 45. coal miner.
Hannah Curtwright 38. Harriet.
Phillip Curtwright 17.
Henry Curtwright 14.
Eden Curtwright 12.
Emma Curtwright 10.
Richard Curtwright 5.
Daniel Curtwright 2.
Harriet Curtwright 10 Mo.
All born Kingswinford.

1861. High Street, Kingswinford.
John Cortwright 54. miner.
Hariot Curtwright 49.
Richard Curtwright 16. Son.
Daniel Curtwright 12. Son.
Harriet Curtwright 10. Daughter.
All born Kingswinford.

1871. 66 Water Street, Kingswinford.
John Cartwright 68. licensed vic.
Sarah Hardwick 24. Servant.
Rachel Henley 14. Servant.


These are already on BCC here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=598114

Apart from the 1871 census which is the John that married Nancy i think this is the John that married Elizabeth Felton here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=598114

1851 Ridge Street Wednesbury
John Cartwright Head Mar 49 Victualler Born Wednesbury
Nancy Cartwright Wife Mar 49 Born Darlaston
John Cartwright Son 13 Born West Bromwich
Thomas Cartwright Son 9 Born Oldbury
Rachael Cartwright Daur 11 Born Oldbury
Hannah Cartwright Daur 6 Born Oldbury
Eliza Henley Servant 18 House Servant Born West Bromwich

1861 Water Street Kingswinford
John Cartwright 69 Head Mar Victualler Born Kingswinford
Nancy Cartwright 55 Wife Mar Born Kingswinford
John Cartwright 23 Son Widr Miner Coal Born West Bromwich
Maria H Cartwright 11 Granddaughter Born Wednesbury
Caroline Dabs 26 Servant Unm Gen Serv Born Salop

1871. 66 Water Street, Kingswinford.
John Cartwright 68. licensed vic.
Sarah Hardwick 24. Servant.
Rachel Henley 14. Servant.

1881 : Water Street, Kingswinford, Staffs
John Cartwright, Head, 78, Grocer, Born in Oldbury
Elizabeth Cartwright, Wife, 60, Born in Kinnersley, Shropshire
Betsy Brown, Step Dar, 22, Born in Kingswinford

West Bromwich
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 37
Marriage date 03 Feb 1823
John CARTWRIGHT West Bromwich bachelor
Ann MEEK West Bromwich spinster
Witness 1 James MEEK
Witness 2 Mary HITCH
Notes With consent of parents. Groom, bride and both witnesses sign by mark.


Name: John Cartwright
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1882
Inferred Death Place: Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 108

Name: John Cartwright
Death Date: 1 Jun 1882
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Probate Date: 19 Jun 1882
Probate Registry: Lichfield

CARTWRIGHT John
Personal Estate £420
19 June
The Will of John Cartwright late of Kingswinford in the County of Stafford Gentleman who died 1 June 1882 Kingswinford was proved at Lichfield by John Cartwright Miner the Son and William Thomas Abbott Schoolmaster both of Kingswinfiord the Executors

Wordsley Holy Trinity.
Burial date 06 Jun 1882.
John CARTWRIGHT.
Person age 79y.
Burial person abode Kingswinford.
CARTWRIGHT, JOHN MEEK
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 443

West Bromwich
Christ Church
Parish Register
Register entry number 1805
Birth date 15 Dec 1837
Baptism date 14 Jan 1838
Person forename John
Person sex ?
Father forename John
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname CARTWRIGHT
Person abode Lyng
Father occupation Miner


CARTWRIGHT, RACHAEL MEEK
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 512

West Bromwich
Christ Church
Parish Register
Birth date 05 Dec 1839
Baptism date 08 Mar 1840
Person forename Rachel
Person sex ?
Father forename John
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname CARTWRIGHT
Person abode Portobello
Father occupation Miner

CARTWRIGHT, THOMAS MECK
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 328

West Bromwich
Christ Church
Parish Register
Birth date 21 Sep 1841
Baptism date 17 Oct 1841
Person forename Thomas
Person sex ?
Father forename John
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname CARTWRIGHT
Person abode Willenhall
Father occupation Miner

CARTWRIGHT, HANNAH MEEK
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 546

West Bromwich
Christ Church
Parish Register
Birth date 27 Jul 1844
Baptism date 11 Aug 1844
Person forename Hannah
Person sex ?
Father forename John
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname CARTWRIGHT
Person abode Oldbury Green
Father occupation Miner

Does this look correct ?

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:40 pm
by Jimmy
Looks good to me.

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:57 pm
by kdwoodie
All sorted and added Job Cartwright here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =405096939

John Cartwright here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=598274

OK to archive?

Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1820 on BCC.

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:06 pm
by Jimmy
Thanks kdw completed.