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UPDATE look up for KDW done! --Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:46 pm
by kdw
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =286646506
Have the marriage for Thomas James and Martha Bowater but on census he has 2 other wives
Can we find who they were and when the wives died?
Thanks
Kaye

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:08 pm
by peterd
here the census of bcc so we know what date were looking for


1881 127 Halesowen Road Rowley Regis

Thomas James Head 31 Gas tube Maker
Martha James Wife 27
Fanny James Daur. 8 Scholar
Mary Ann James Daur. 6 Scholar
Abrose James 4 Scholar
Joseph James Son 2
All born Rowley Regis

1891 128 Halesowen Road Rowley Regis

Thomas James Head 41 Publican
Elizabeth James Wife 34
Fanny James Daur.18
Polly James Daur. 16
Ambrose James Son 14
Joseph James Son 12
Edith James Daur. 9
Emily James Daur.6
All born Rowley Regis

1901 191 "Gate Hangs Well" Halesowen Road Rowley Regis

Thomas James Head 51 Publican Born Old Hill
Annie James Wife 46 Born Old Hill
Joseph James Son 22 Brewer Born Old Hill
Thomas Tromans Step Son 18 Bricklayer Born Old Hill
Emily James Daur 16 Born Birmingham
Hannah James Mother Wid 75 Born Old Hill

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:13 pm
by peterd
poss little bit of law breaking going on poss her sister

JAMES Thomas BOWATER Elizabeth 1891 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/002/497

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:14 pm
by peterd
poss 3rd marriage ?

JAMES Thomas TROMANS Annie 1896 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/041/204

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:19 pm
by peterd
any one find annie tromans c 1855
and son thomas b 1883

in 1891 census please


1901 191 "Gate Hangs Well" Halesowen Road Rowley Regis

Thomas James Head 51 Publican Born Old Hill
Annie James Wife 46 Born Old Hill
Joseph James Son 22 Brewer Born Old Hill
Thomas Tromans Step Son 18 Bricklayer Born Old Hill
Emily James Daur 16 Born Birmingham
Hannah James Mother Wid 75 Born Old Hill

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:58 pm
by mallosa
Is this them?

1891: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
William Tromans 35 Head Builder (Master)
Annie Tromans 36 Wife
Joseph Tromans 10 Son
Tommy Tromans 7 Son
Annie Tromans 5 Dau
Fredrick Tromans 11/12 Son

all born Rowley Regis

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:32 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:Is this them?

1891: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
William Tromans 35 Head Builder (Master)
Annie Tromans 36 Wife
Joseph Tromans 10 Son
Tommy Tromans 7 Son
Annie Tromans 5 Dau
Fredrick Tromans 11/12 Son

all born Rowley Regis



poss marriage

TROMANS William SMITH Annie 1875 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/032/215

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:35 pm
by peterd
poss 1881

1881 20 Spring Meadow Rowley Regis, Stafford


William TROMANS 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Carpenter
Ann TROMANS 26 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Lily TROMANS 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph TROMANS 11 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:02 am
by mallosa
William with his parents?

1871: Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 49 Head Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 47 Wife

Agness Tromans 18 Dau Nailmaker
William Tromans 15 Son Carpenter
Joseph Tromans 12 Son
Alfred Tromans 9 Son
Keagier? Tromans 7 Dau
Maria Tromans 4 Dau

all born Rowley Regis

1861: still in Peartree Street
Joseph Tromans 37 Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 37

Isaac Tromans 13
Ellen Tromans 11
Agness Tromans 8
William Tromans 5
Joseph Tromans 2

Here's Joseph and Hannah living with his parents -

1851: New Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 61 Head Publican
Phebe Tromans 55 Wife

Joseph Tromans 27 Lodger M Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 27 Wife M
Isaac Tromans 3 Son
Ellen Tromans 1 Mo Dau

all born Rowley

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:41 pm
by kdw
Posted marriage lookups
Archive this please till lookups done
Thanks
Kaye

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:16 pm
by Northern Lass
mallosa wrote:William with his parents?

1871: Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 49 Head Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 47 Wife

Agness Tromans 18 Dau Nailmaker
William Tromans 15 Son Carpenter
Joseph Tromans 12 Son
Alfred Tromans 9 Son
Keagier? Tromans 7 Dau
Maria Tromans 4 Dau

all born Rowley Regis

1861: still in Peartree Street
Joseph Tromans 37 Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 37

Isaac Tromans 13
Ellen Tromans 11
Agness Tromans 8
William Tromans 5
Joseph Tromans 2

Here's Joseph and Hannah living with his parents -

1851: New Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 61 Head Publican
Phebe Tromans 55 Wife

Joseph Tromans 27 Lodger M Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 27 Wife M
Isaac Tromans 3 Son
Ellen Tromans 1 Mo Dau

all born Rowley


I have done the look up for this thread

it connects to Wm Tromans on BCC

but
I dont think that on the 1851 that Joseph Tromans and Phebe are Joseph the carpenters parents
he is down as a lodger!

will fill in details and post

Re: Thomas James 1850

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:19 pm
by Northern Lass
can we find a marriage for Joseph and Hannah
I think he is the son of Isaac Tromans b 1779 and Rosannah Homer

1851 116 New Street, Rowley
Joseph Tromans 61 - Publican
Phebe Tromans 55
Joseph Tromans 27 - Lodger - Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 27
Isaac Tromans 3
Ellen Tromans 1 Mo
all b Rowley

need this marriage too
will check it is down for a look u
TROMANS William SMITH Annie 1875 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/032/215

William Tromans on the census is a builder
is he a carpenter before
is this William with father Joseph?
is there another William?

1871: Peartree Street, Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans 49 Head Carpenter
Hannah Tromans 47 Wife
Agness Tromans 18 Dau Nailmaker
William Tromans 15 Son Carpenter
Joseph Tromans 12 Son
Alfred Tromans 9 Son
Keagier? Tromans 7 Dau
Maria Tromans 4 Dau


1881 20 Spring Meadow Rowley Regis, Stafford
William TROMANS 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Carpenter
Ann TROMANS 26 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Lily TROMANS 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph TROMANS 11 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

1891: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
William Tromans 35 Head Builder (Master)
Annie Tromans 36 Wife
Joseph Tromans 10 Son
Tommy Tromans 7 Son
Annie Tromans 5 Dau
Fredrick Tromans 11/12 Son

all born Rowley Regis

1901 191 "Gate Hangs Well" Halesowen Road Rowley Regis
Thomas James Head 51 Publican Born Old Hill
Annie James Wife 46 Born Old Hill
Joseph James Son 22 Brewer Born Old Hill
Thomas Tromans Step Son 18 Bricklayer Born Old Hill
Emily James Daur 16 Born Birmingham
Hannah James Mother Wid 75 Born Old Hill

Re: UPDATE look up for KDW done! --Thomas James 1850

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:51 pm
by Northern Lass
could anyone please add these census ..
to this guy
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =778966295


1881 20 Spring Meadow Rowley Regis, Stafford
William TROMANS 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Carpenter
Ann TROMANS 26 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Lily TROMANS 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph TROMANS 11 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

1891: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
William Tromans 35 Head Builder (Master)
Annie Tromans 36 Wife
Joseph Tromans 10 Son
Tommy Tromans 7 Son
Annie Tromans 5 Dau
Fredrick Tromans 11/12 Son
all born Rowley Regis

and on the 1871 for Joseph Tromans and wife Hannah add in the occupations?
:?

Re: UPDATE look up for KDW done! --Thomas James 1850

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:58 pm
by kdw
All done

Re: UPDATE look up for KDW done! --Thomas James 1850

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:06 pm
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:Doing it now


can you add the kids too please?
and peel me a grape too?
:grin: :wink: