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"Complete"John Harper b. 1786 & John Harper born 1811

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:31 am
by mumbles
This John Harper https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =169304380

and This John Harper https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =936704867

are I believe same person as occupation is Sawyer .
Marriage is Freereg 18/11/1839 St. Mary Kingswinford
John Harper Bach Sawyer Shutt End father Thomas Harper Sawyer
Eliza Danks (wid) Dressmaker father Robert Skelding Miner
Witnesses :- John & Emma Jones

Census Records are a bit off as regards ages but are correct
1841 Census Mill Street Old Swinford Stourbridge Worcs.
John Harper 55 Sawyer
Eliza Harper 30
William Harper 5 mths.
Joseph Harper 15
Thomas Harper 13
Susannah Harper 12
Elizabeth Harper 9
Ann Danks 7
All born in County.
Note older Harper children are probably from previous marriage of John Harper despite shown as bachelor on marriage record

1851 Census Long Lands Old Swinford Stourbridge Worcs.
John Harper Head 45 Sawyer
Eliza Harper wife 60
Ann Harper dau 17
William Harper son 10 Scholar
Eliza Harper dau 7 Scholar
Mary Harper dau 5
Fanny Harper dau 3
Louisa Harper dau 1
All born Stourbridge Worcs.
Note :- Ann Harper is Ann Danks dau from Eliza's previous marriage

1861 Census The Heath Upper Swinford Stourbridge Worcs.
John Harper Head 50 Farm Labourer
Eliza Harper wife 40 Dressmaker
William Harper son 19 Iron Puddler
Eliza Harper dau 17 Dressmaker
Mary Harper dau 15 Dressmaker
Fanny Harper dau 13 Scholar
Louisa Harper dau 11 Scholar
Robert Harper son 9 Scholar
George Harper son 7 Scholar
Ann Grice 20 Visitor (m) Dressmaker
Annie Grice visitor 4
All born Stourbridge Worcs.

1871 Census Heath Road Old Swinford Stourbridge Worcs.
Eliza Harper Head 60 (wid) Depend on Children born Brierley Hill Staffs.
Robert Harper son 19 Glass Maker ( Appr.)
George Harper son 15 Glass Maker ( Appr.)
Rest born Stourbridge Worcs.

Re: John Harper b. 1786 & John Harper born 1811

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:41 am
by mumbles
Also found this marriage :-
Freereg 28/6/1857 St. Thomas Dudley
Thomas Grice bach. Slitter Dudley father Richard Grice Draftsman
Ann Danks Sp. Dudley father Joseph Danks Engineer Deceased
Witnessses :- John & Mary Ann Hemming
Which now gives name of 1st husband of Eliza Harper/Danks nee Skelding

Re: John Harper b. 1786 & John Harper born 1811

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:21 pm
by grangers14
It does look the same person mumbles.

Re: John Harper b. 1786 & John Harper born 1811

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:25 am
by Northern Lass
Is this completed?

Re: John Harper b. 1786 & John Harper born 1811

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:10 am
by mumbles
Yes NL