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Edward Saunders/Sanders

Information from Tipton remembers page
More can be found here
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... ers-edward

The Tipton Library Memorial spells this man's surname as Saunders, most other sources agree. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission and his Birth Registration (freebmd) spell his surname as Sanders.
The CWGC were asked to check their records, which they kindly did, and replied: "I should inform you that our records consistently reflect the spelling 'Sanders', this being the name we were given by the service authorities after the war ended. If this is incorrect, we will of course be very happy to alter it upon receipt of supporting documentary evidence such as a birth certificate." There is sufficient uncertainty to make it best left unchanged.


Dob 1897

Killed in Action on Thursday, 10th February 1916, age 19.
Buried in Grave G. 14. at X Farm Cemetery, La Chapelle-D'Armentieres, Nord, France.

1st Bn., Worcestershire Regiment. 24th Brigade of 8th Division.

Son of Frank Sanders & Caroline ?
of 11, Malthouse Rd., Tipton, Staffs.

1901 Census
11 Malthouse Road, Tipton, Staffs.
Frank Saunders (52, Boat Loader, born London), his wife Caroline (48, born Dudley Port), and their 6 children: Hannah (20, Domestic Servant, born Tipton), Eliza Annie (18, born Tipton), Frank (13, Barge Labourer, born Tipton), John (11, born Tipton), William Henry (6, born Tipton), and Edward (4, born Tipton).

1911 Census
11 Malthouse Road, Tipton, Staffs.
Frank Saunders (60, Boat Loader, born Tipton), his wife Caroline (55, born West Bromwich), and 1 of their 5 surviving children of 9: Edward (14, Boatman, born Tipton).

Jo Do i add as Saunders on BCC ??

Edward Saunders
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1897
Baptism Place: Tipton, Stafford, England
Father:
Frank Saunders
Mother:
Caroline

Possible parents marriage ??
Francis Sanders
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1850
Marriage Date: 9 May 1880
Marriage Place: Sedgley Parish, Lower Gornall, Stafford, England
Father:
Samuel Sanders
&
Caroline Garratt
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1855
Marriage Date: 9 May 1880
Marriage Place: Sedgley Parish, Lower Gornall, Stafford, England
Father:
James Garratt
Spouse:
Francis Sanders

SANDERS, EDWARD    GARRATT  GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 62

Yes I think Sanders too.
Perhaps put a note on that some census shows Saunders.

Thanks Jo

Added what I can to bcc

I really dont understand this, if Frank?Francis was a widower could this be his 1st marriage

TRUSS, ALICE TARRY
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 361

TRUSS Alice SANDERS Francis 1875 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/032/187

This is where it gets confusing
Name: Alice Mary Saunders
Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1880
Marriage Place: London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
Spouse:
James Bloomer


1881 Ontario Canada
James Bloomer 48 Ireland Labourer
Alice Mary Bloomer 27 England
Maggie Bloomer 24 Ont
James Bloomer 19 Ont
Julia Bloomer 15 Ont
Mary E. Saunders 5 England

1891 Ontario
James Bloomer 55 Head M Labourer Ireland
Alice Bloomer 34 Wife M England
Emily Bloomer 16 Daughter England
Harry Bloomer 8 Son Ont
Bella Bloomer 5 Daughter Ont
Eva Bloomer 3 Daughter Ont

1901 Ontario
James Munro 44 Head Widowed Engineer Birth Date: 1 Mar 1857 Canadian
Mamie Munro 15 Daughter Birth Date 13 Sep 1885
Bert Munro 21 Son Student Birth Date: 21 Nov 1879
Florence Munro 4 Daughter Birth Date: 5 Sep 1886
Alice Bloomer 43 Housekeeper Widowed Birth Date: 12 Sep 1857
John H Bloomer 19 Boarder Birth Date: 17 Mar 1881
Ulice I. Bloomer 15 Boarder Birth Date: 22 May 1885
Beatrice Bloomer 13 Boarder Birth Date: 20 Jul 1887

Name: James Bloomer
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1828
Birth Place: Ireland
Death Date: 20 Nov 1896
Death Place: Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
Religion: Methodist Episcopal Church
Cause of Death: Cerebral Apoplexy

Daughter of Frank/Francis and Alice
SAUNDERS, EMILY TRUSS
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 58

Children of James and Alice
Name: John Henry Bloomer
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 Mar 1882
Birth Place: Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
Father:
James Bloomer
Mother:
Alice Sauders

Name: Alice Isabella Bloomer
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 May 1886
Birth Place: Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
Father:
James Bloomer
Mother:
Alice Saunders

Name: Beatrice Evelina Bloomer
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1888
Birth Place: Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
Father:
James Bloomer
Mother:
Alice Mary Truss

Name: Alice M Monro
Gender: Female
Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1857
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 8 Mar 1927
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Cause of Death: Myocarditis
Father Joseph Truss England
Mother Sussie? Truss England

Name: Alice Monro
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1857
Death Date: 8 Mar 1927
Cemetery: Prospect Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: Y
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138 ... lice-monro

1881 25 Chapel St Tipton
Francis Sanders Head Mar 21 Labourer Born London
Caroline Sanders Wife Mar 25 Born West Bromwich
Hannah Sanders Daur 10 Wks Born Tipton

1891 3 Hall Street Tipton
Frank Saunders 41 Head M General Labourer Born London
Caroline Saunders 36 Wife M Born Tipton
Hannah Saunders 10 Daughter S Scholar Born Tipton
Eliza Saunders 8 Daughter S Svholar Born Tipton
Frank Saunders 3 Son Born Tipton
John Saunders 1 Son Born Tipton
James Sarrett 66 Father-in-law Widr General Labourer Born Tipton

Children of Frank/Francis and Caroline
SAUNDERS, HANNAH GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 59

SANDERS, ANN ELIZA GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 50

SANDERS, FRANK GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 50

Name: Frank Saunders
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1888
Baptism Place: Tipton, Stafford, England
Father:
Frank Saunders
Mother:
Caroline
FHL Film Number: 6085678
Reference ID: p16

SANDERS, JOHN GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 54

SANDERS, WILLIAM HENRY GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 57

Name: William Henry Sanders
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 28 Nov 1894
Baptism Place: Tipton, Stafford, England
Father:
Frank Sanders
Mother:
Caraline
FHL Film Number: 6085678
Reference ID: 30

SANDERS, EDWARD GARRATT
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 62

Thanks kd for all this

I can follow from 1881 25 Chapel St Tipton and will add to bcc, but before that and possible 1st marriage I'm completely stumped. Hope someone else can hopefully help you to understand it

I did try and have a quick look at this. I thought, Frank, Francis had been married before...I didn't save it Garratt I think I remember but he was a widow? On freereg.

Started separate threads, ok to archive ?

Thanks Kd

Yes please archive