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Help pls adding this to BCC--James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:41 am
by Northern Lass
have done a look up for Mally and need more info on this James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=74491998who did he marry
what is his dob
and place of birth

Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:22 am
by Jimmy
Possibles.
Elizebeth Hollyooke.
Christening, 09 OCT 1864, Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
James Hollyooke.
Sarah.
Batch No. I010836.
James Hollyoak.
Father: James Hollyoak.
Sarah Downing.
No Father given.
Marriage. 25 DEC 1854, St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 pm
by linell
I can only find one James Hollyoak in 1861:-
Saltwells Coppice Quarry Bank
James Hollyoak 30
Mary Ann 25
Sarah 6
Thomas 4
Matilda 2
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:12 pm
by linell
1881 Census Birch Coppice Kingswinford:-
James Hollyoak HD 48 Coal Miner all born K/S
Mary Ann Wife 44
James 15
Job 10
Arthur 8
Next Door is Matilda Sidaway aged 21 with son Eli Sidaway aged 1 born K/S
Think this is her Marriage Matilda Holyoake and Job Sidaway Dudley 1878
Elizabeth Hollyoak aged 19 is enumerated as Eliza Hollyoak 1881 a Servant Girl in Mexborough York born Quarry Bank.
Linell.
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:47 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage 1853.
HOLLYOAK James, JONES Mary A, Dudley, St Andrew, Dudley Register Office. 205/001/401.
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:33 pm
by kdw
There is this Elizabeth
1881 37 Dingle St Ashlees Cottage Oldbury
James Simkin Head 48 Property Owner Born West Bromwich
Annie M. Simkin Daur.40 Born Oldbury
Annie M. Simkin Daur.19 Born Australia
Florence L. Simkin Daur.10 Born West Bromwich
Lilian M.D. Simkin Daur.7 Born Oldbury
Elizabeth Hollywick Servant 16 Born Oldbury (Image looks like Hollyoak)
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:18 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Possibles.
Elizebeth Hollyooke.
Christening, 09 OCT 1864, Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
James Hollyooke.
Sarah.
Batch No. I010836.
James Hollyoak.
Father: James Hollyoak.
Sarah Downing.
No Father given.
Marriage. 25 DEC 1854, St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
I think this is her
but if we cant find her on the census we are going to have to leave it
what do we think to adding this one
the age is good
the fathers name is good
dunno what do we think?
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:19 pm
by grangers14
What about this?
1871 Census
as Hollysake on ancestry,
2 Court, Brades Road , Oldbury
Sarah Hollyoake, head, w, 44, Washer woman,
Mary, daur, 14, assistant to washerwoman,
Eliza, daur, 13,
Hannah, daur, 11
Elizabeth, daur, 6
All born Rowley
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:36 pm
by grangers14
This goes along with what Jimmy found,
as Holysake on Ancestry
1861 census
Brades Road, Oldbury
James Holyoake, 35, Labourer, Berkshire
Sarah, wife, 34, Rowley
Mary E, daur, 4, Oldbury
Eliza, daur, 3, Oldbury
Hannah, daur, 1, Oldbury
Elizabeth Downing, mother, mar, 63, Smethwick
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:43 pm
by grangers14
I'd go with the same as Kdw for 1881 census
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:26 am
by Northern Lass
I do think that is our Eliz and father James
can we find Elizabeth after her marriage see if any clues as
to family living near in the later census?
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:56 am
by kdw
1891 No 2 Foster Sq Oldbury
Samuel Rollason Head 29 Grinder Born Rowley
Elizabeth Rollason Wife 25 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Robert Rollason Son 3 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Ann Eliza Rollason Daur. 2 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Lilly Rollason Daur. 11 weeks Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Sarah Hollcraft Mother in Law Widow 60 Born Rounds Green Oldbury (Image says Hollyoak)
Re: James Hollyoak
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:07 am
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:1891 No 2 Foster Sq Oldbury
Samuel Rollason Head 29 Grinder Born Rowley
Elizabeth Rollason Wife 25 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Robert Rollason Son 3 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Ann Eliza Rollason Daur. 2 Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Lilly Rollason Daur. 11 weeks Born Rounds Green Oldbury
Sarah Hollcraft Mother in Law Widow 60 Born Rounds Green Oldbury (Image says Hollyoak)
nice one Kdw
that sorts it doesnt it
her mother is Sarah and a Downing married to James and living with the couple
excellent
ok who can add all this please

Re: Help pls adding this to BCC--James Hollyoak
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:32 am
by grangers14
I can add it for you.
Jo

Re: Help pls adding this to BCC--James Hollyoak
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:41 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:I can add it for you.
Jo

Thanks Jo
just going to post the last Sandwell look up
then we can start on the Dudley ones
might be some time getting thru them
Kaye!!!!
