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Arc tbc...William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:41 am
by Northern Lass
Split this thread....

Q is this Abia/Obia age 10 on 1851 this one..
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =163375337


1851 Census Wordsley Green Wordsley Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Parker Head 41 Coal Miner
Abia Parker wife 40
Hannah Parker dau 19
Phillip Parker son 13 Coal Miner
Ephraim Parker son 12 Coal Miner
Abia (trans as Alice) Parker 10 At School born Kingwinford Staffs.
Luesia Parker dau 7 At School born Kingwinford Staffs.
Rest born Forest of Dean Gloucs.

1861 Census High Street Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
Abiah Parker Head 50 (m) Charwoman born St. Braivels / Gloucs.
Abiah Parker dau 20 Labourer in Brick Works born Drybrook Gloucs.
Louisa Parker dau 16 born Kingwinford Staffs.
Ephraim Parker son 10
Hiram Parker son 8
Rebecca Parker dau 6
Susan Parker dau 1
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.
Some of children registered as mother Stevens

Re: Simmons or Parker

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:12 pm
by Northern Lass
PARKER, REBECCA STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 224

PARKER, HIRAM STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 208

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PARKER, - STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in THE HITCHIN UNION Volume 06 Page 538
PARKER, - STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in THE HITCHIN UNION Volume 06 Page 530

Re: Simmons or Parker

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:51 am
by kdwoodie
Found this but no idea :?:

Name: Abia Parker
Gender: Male
Death Age: 88
Birth Date: 1804
Death Date: abt 1892
Burial Date: 16 Apr 1892
Burial Place: Kingswinford, Stafford, England
FHL Film Number: 1470764
Reference ID: it 6 p 103

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:10 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:
Cannot find her by using variations of Abia , Obia , Abiah etc.

Cannot find Parker family before 1851 and discrepancy between 1851 and 1861 showing birth place of some family members
as either Forest of Dean or Kingswinford ( most of children are Kingswinford in later Census records)

Drybrook Gloucs. is in Forest of Dean, St Briavels Hundred is in Forest of Dean
after 1861 some family members married and left Kingswinford to return to Forest of Dean

Abia Parker 72 is shown as born Forest of Dean in Gloucs, in 1881 and 1891

Reference John Mann who married Obia Simmons in 1863 in St. Giles
He is shown as born Dumbleton Gloucs on 1881 Census but NK Worcs. on 1871
Abia is shown as NK. Gloucs on 1871

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Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:10 am
by kdwoodie
SYMMONDS, ABIAH STEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in ROSS Volume 26 Page 213

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:11 am
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:SYMMONDS, ABIAH STEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in ROSS Volume 26 Page 213


Brilliant! well done you!!

adding...

and that connects that family so will start to add that too.

So is William Parker a stepfather?
is Abiah Stephens mother of Abiah Simmonds married prev....

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:24 am
by kdwoodie
looking at Susannah

Could this be her in 1861

1861 Census High Street Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
Abiah Parker Head 50 (m) Charwoman born St. Braivels / Gloucs.
Abiah Parker dau 20 Labourer in Brick Works born Drybrook Gloucs.
Louisa Parker dau 16 born Kingwinford Staffs.
Ephraim Parker son 10
Hiram Parker son 8
Rebecca Parker dau 6
Susan Parker dau 1
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:35 am
by Northern Lass
Yes that links with this lot ..
1851 Census Wordsley Green Wordsley Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Parker Head 41 Coal Miner
Abia Parker wife 40
Hannah Parker dau 19
Phillip Parker son 13 Coal Miner
Ephraim Parker son 12 Coal Miner
Abia (trans as Alice) Parker 10 At School born Kingwinford Staffs.
Luesia Parker dau 7 At School born Kingwinford Staffs.
Rest born Forest of Dean Gloucs.

So we have Abia/Obia marries a William Parker ....but can't find marriage to Wm Parker

Abia /Obia has maiden name of Stevens...but dau Obia /Abiah is down as surname Symmonds

So does the mother marry a Symmonds then Parker

I have put down Abiah born 1839 as having unknown father

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:36 am
by Northern Lass

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:38 am
by kdwoodie
Births Mar 1860
SIMMONS Susannah Dudley 6c 73

Can't find this on GRO

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:42 am
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:Births Mar 1860
SIMMONS Susannah Dudley 6c 73

Can't find this on GRO


I think it is this one
SIMMONS, SUSANNAH TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 73

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:50 am
by Northern Lass
I think that Hannah, Phillip and Ephraim are Obiahs kids .....

can anyone find them on 1841 pls

Re: Simmons or Parker

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:57 am
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:PARKER, REBECCA STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 224

PARKER, HIRAM STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 208



PARKER, LOUISA STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 447

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:07 pm
by Northern Lass
There are 2 Ephraim Parkers in the family

one is born abt 1839....does he die

as the other is b 1850 and i have the gro birth for that one.

Re: William Parker/Simmonds and wife Obia.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Name: Louisa Parker
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1843
Baptism Date: 30 May 1843
Baptism Place: St. Mary, Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father:
William Parker
Mother:
Abia
FHL Film Number: 1040002
Reference ID: 359