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Can we find more pls who married when and kids etc.
maybe connect on Bcc...cant see him on at mo.

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Fold 3 info
Beale, John Edward
Service Number:19459
Rank:Pte
Regiment:4, Worcester
Relative 1:Beale, Harriet
Relative 1 address:Staffs 35 Brook Lane Old Hill, Staffordshire
Relative 1 relation to head:Widow
Relative 1 birth date:11 Feb 1893
Relative 2:Dorothy Amelia James
Relative 2 relation to head:Illegitimate Stepchild
Relative 3:Beale, John Alfred
Relative 3 relation to head:Children
Relative 3 birth date:12 Jan 1915


BEALE, John E 19459 Pte 4th Worcester 26th October 1916
35 Brook Lane
PRIVATE
J E BEALE
Service Number: 19459
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Worcestershire Regiment
14th Bn.
Date of Death
Died 26 October 1916
Buried or commemorated at
HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE
IV. C. 83.
France
Country of Service
United Kingdom

1914
BEALE John E JONES Harriett 1914 Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/6/286

not sure on this one

JONES, HARRIET ANN HAMPHRIES
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 28

poss
1891
BEALE John E 1891 Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/202/388

BEALE, JOHN EDWARD COOPER
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 115

poss
1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
BEALE Edward COOPER Annie 1891 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/040/149

any census pls that works for this family?

1911 3 Court No 3 Cradley Road, Netherton
Edward Beale Head 46 Married Miner
Annie Beale Wife 43 Married
John Edward Beale Son 19 Single Miner
Harry Beale Son 18 Single Iron Worker
Blanche Beale Daur 17 Single Chain Maker
Tom Beale Son 13
Willie Beale Son 8
Annie Beale Daur 7
Fanny Beale Daur 4
Alfred Harold Beale Son 3
All born Netherton
Married 19 Years 11 Children 8 Living 3 Died

Name: Edward Beale
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1865
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1891
Marriage Place: St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father:
John Beale
Spouse:
Annie Cooper Father: Samuel Cooper
FHL Film Number: 378788
Reference ID: pg. 75, no. 149

Did his father also die in the War ?
Eld Beale
Gender: Male
Rank: Spr
Record Type: Card
Death Date: 18 Apr 1917
Service Number: 102,812
Corps, Regiment or Unit: Royal Engineers
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Bayliss A-Beale WH
Reference Number: 6.APW.1532
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Eld Beale
Annie Beale Widow
William Beale Child
Annie Beale Children
Fanny Beale Children
Alfred Harold Beale Children

Harry the son also died in the War
Name: Harry. Beale
Rank: Pte..
Record Type: Card
Death Date: 19 Jan 1917
Service Number: 19424.
Corps, Regiment or Unit: 9/. Worcesters.
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Died Bayliss A-Beale WH
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Harry. Beale
Annie Beale Mother

Already on BCC as Bale https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=544481

Harriet Beale remarried
BEALE Harriet GILL Joseph 1918 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/042/80

Name: Joseph Gill
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Record Type: Death
Military Service Region: West Midlands, Midlands
Military Country: England
Service Number: 14643
Corps, Regiment or Unit: Worcestershire Regiment
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: PRC Ledgers
Reference Number: /W/89, 2989
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Joseph Gill
Harriet Gill Widow

Harriet married again
GILL Harriett WAKEMAN George 1929 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/063/192

1939 58 Clifton Street Rowley Regis
George Wakeman M 59 M 22 Dec 1880 Forehand Puddler Iron??
Harriett A Wakeman F 46 M 11 Feb 1893 Domestic Duties Unpaid [Ann Wakeman]
Ruth Wakeman F 9 S 18 Mar 1930 School [Ruth Hackett]WAKEMAN, RUTH JONES GRO Reference: 1930 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1450
This record is officially closed.
Gladys Gill F 19 S 29 Apr 1920 Shop Assistant [Gladys Rowley]GILL, GLADYS JONES GRO Reference: 1920 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 2041

Could this be George https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=544481
Name: George T Wakeman
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Date: Apr 1955
[May 1955]
[Jun 1955]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 353

Name: Harriet Ann Wakeman
Death Age: 88
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1893
Registration Date: Apr 1981
[May 1981]
[Jun 1981]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 0608

GILL, GLADYS JONES
GRO Reference: 1920 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 2041

GILL Gladys ROWLEY Jack 1942 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/8/246

Name: Gladys May Rowley
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1920
Registration Date: Apr 2000
Registration District: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Register Number: 44D
District and Subdistrict: 5171
Entry Number: 102

Name: Gladys May Rowley
Death Date: 24 Apr 2000
Burial or Cremation Date: 2 May 2000
Burial or Cremation Place: West Midlands, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/ ... id=9999912

ROWLEY, JACK WESTON
GRO Reference: 1922 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1794
Son of James and Ellen here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=544482

Name: Jack Rowley
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1922
Registration Date: Apr 1985
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 590

Name: Jack Rowley
Death Date: 11 Apr 1985
Burial or Cremation Date: 17 Apr 1985
Burial or Cremation Place: West Midlands, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/ ... d=10022997

Blimey you don't hang about do you!

Will have a look at this tomorrow thanks so much

been busy putting a load of Black country Books on ebay.

That is a huge gap on James and Ellens kids
ROWLEY, JACK WESTON
GRO Reference: 1922 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1794
Son of James and Ellen here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=544482

possible but are we sure

or could it be next James down ie son?

Think maybe this is Sarah maybe year on 1939 should say 1869
HUMPHRIES, SARAH JANE WHITE
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 10

connected to this family
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =229687301

perhaps mothers name on gro misheard

1939
James Rowley M 62 W 6 Jul 1877 Galvanizer Pickler
Jack Rowley M 17 S 17 Feb 1922 Press Tool Locket Facer
Fred Bucknell M 24 M 19 Apr 1915 Iron Moulder
Mary Bucknell F 25 M 14 Dec 1914 Unpaid Domestic

Births Mar 1912
Rowley Lily Weston Dudley 6c 19

Births Mar 1915
ROWLEY Lavinia Weston Dudley 6b 1850
ROWLEY Mary Weston Dudley 6b 1850

Births Dec 1918
Rowley Samuel Weston Dudley 6b 1429

Births Mar 1922
Rowley Jack Weston Dudley 6b 1794

ROWLEY Lily BOSWELL James 1934 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/07/136

ROWLEY Lavinia EVITTS Henry J 1937 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/7/366

ROWLEY Mary BUCKNALL James F W 1938 Dudley Register Office (Rowley Regis District) Dudley Register Office ROW/01C/218

ROWLEY Jack GILL Gladys 1942 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/8/246

let me split this off min

Completed on this one with thanks will arc.