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"Complete"Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc mumbles sorting
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:32 am
by mumbles
This Thomas Elwell added by Jo
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =471447280Is same as this Thomas Elwell added by myself
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =661562535However Jo has Janes instead of James
Other problem is that Thomas is shown as married to Elizabeth in 1841 and Mary after that but in 1861 Thomas and Mary have a relative Sarah Sutton living with them and in 1871 Sarah Sutton is living with Mary and shown as sister/lodger
I have found a Sarah Parker married 8/11/1873 to John Sutton
and Mary Parker married 6/3/1815 All Saints Sedgley to Thomas Elwell
So where does Elizabeth of 1841 fit in ?
Other problem is that on 1841 Census Abiatha is shown as son but in 1851 shown as dau Bertha or Bartha ?
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:43 am
by mumbles
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:27 pm
by grangers14
I will sort it out mumbles...
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:42 pm
by grangers14
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:48 pm
by mumbles
Thanks grangers14
Still leaves the other questions
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:08 pm
by grangers14
Can you read occupation of Bertha /Bartha 1851?
Looks like at home at...?
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:09 pm
by grangers14
I can not see a marriage to Elizabeth. Is it there or not available to see?
1841 does not give status so Elizabeth may not be wife? That is why we do not presume unless other info is found. So we don't know if Thomas was married to Elizabeth or if it has been recorded wrong?
I have seen some Christenings possibly for children? Thomas's occupation as miner mother Mary...
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:18 pm
by kdwoodie
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 229
Marriage date 06 Mar 1815
Thomas ELWELL Sedgley bachelor
Mary PARKER Sedgley spinster
Witness 1 John ELWELL
Witness 2 John NEWTON
Notes Bride, groom and John Elwell all sign with a mark.
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 8:43 pm
by kdwoodie
Possible Baptisms
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 909
Baptism date 06 Jun 1815
Person forename Bessy
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Miner
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 1894
Baptism date 29 Mar 1818
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Collier
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 430
Baptism date 11 Jul 1820
Person forename Jonah
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Collier
Sedgley
All Saints
Other Transcript
Burial date 15 Jun 1824
Burial person forename Jonah
Relationship Son of
Male relative forename Thomas
Burial person surname ELWELL
Person age 4y
Burial person abode Coseley
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 1381
Baptism date 15 Sep 1822
Person forename Daniel
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Collier
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 676
Baptism date 14 May 1826
Person forename Jonah
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Miner
Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Register entry number 105
Baptism date 30 Nov 1828
Person forename David
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary
Father surname ELWELL
Person abode Coseley
Father occupation Miner
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc ..JO sorting
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:04 am
by mumbles
Sarah Parker married John Sutton 8/11/1813 St. Peter Wolverhampton Witnesses :- Thomas Javons & Michael Shore
1841 Joseph Sutton Skidmore Row Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Sutton 51 Coal Heaver
Sarah Sutton 50
John Sutton 12 Coal Heaver
Joseph Sutton 14
1851 Joseph Sutton Skidmore Row Coseley Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Sutton Head 64 Coal Heaver
Sarah Sutton 60
next door :-
John Sutton 26 Coal Heaver
Mary Sutton wife 24
All born Sedgley Staffs.
in later Census records Sarah Sutton nee Parker is living with her sister Mary Elwell nee Parker
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc ..mumbles sorting
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:22 am
by mumbles
Freereg marriage 5/1/1851 All Saints Sedgley
John Sutton 26 Bach. Labourer Coseley father Joseph Sutton Labourer
Mary Edwards 24 Sp. Coseley father Evan Edwards Labourer
Witnesses :- Benjamin Cole & Mary Ann Pritchard
Age of John ties up with 1851 Census so it looks like age on 1841 Census is incorrect
Re: Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc ..JO sorting
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:55 pm
by grangers14
Northern Lass wrote:I will sticky this for you to add Jo.
mumbles is doing NL
Re: "Complete"Two Thomas Elwell born 1796 on Bcc mumbles sor
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:49 pm
by mumbles
All added and sorted with notes