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Can anyone fill out the early life and parentage of Mary ?

1873 Cited on birth certificate of son William Henry Gladders (Gladhoss on BC - she couldn't spell) :
Mary Gladhoss formerly Cope

1878 Cited on marriage certificate:(yes they seem to have left it a bit late! -why is a good question to try to answer!)
9Jun 1878 St Mary's? , Bilston,
William Gladders, 49,W,Smith,Bilston,
Mary Allen,37,W,Bilston,father,William Cope, Tailor
Witnesses:William Cope, Sarah Cope

1881@Round Road Lodge, Coseley,Sedgely
William Gladders,Head,M,57, Blacksmith, Newcastle-on-Tyne
Mary A,Wife,41,Worcester
William,Son,7,Sedgely
John,Son,2,Sedgely

1887 Death of William Gladders, French St,Wolverhampton informant Mary Gladders, widow of deceased.

1888 11 December Marriage @ Parish Church of St Mary Wolverhampton
George Broomhall,57,W,Labourer,Grimstone St?,father, Samuel Broomhall, deceased
Mary Gladers,46,W,Schoolkeeper,M....Green,,father,William Cope, deceased
Witnesses: S.Phillips,Mary Ann Fereday

1891 @ Catholic Lane,Cotwallend?,Sedgely
George Broomhall, Head,M, 56,Tenant Farmer, Cheshire, Wenbury
Mary,47,Worcester City
William H Gladders, stepson,17, Farm LAbourer Ag.,Staffordshire Daisy Bank
John Gladders, stepson,12,scholar,Staffordshire Daisy Bank


I believe I have found her death in 1896 JanFebMar Woverhampton and certainly William Henry has married by the 1901 census and John is living with him.

Any help gratefully received as I have hit a brick wall.

Hi Mg can you add what you have in the above detail to BCC as it helps to see it actually on the tree

so she married 3 times?

if you can add all those marriages
I have entered William but please feel free to add more or an accurate dob

so we want parents of Mary?

have you got her first marriage to an Allen?
and on any early census?

NL

I am slowly getting round to add all my details but I have nothing on Mary A Cope/Allen/Gladders/Broomhall before she married William Gladders or more correctly before she had William Henry Gladders as that seems to have come first - I'll do her next.

William was a widower from before 1861 so as far as I know there was not a problem on his side - I didn't know whether she left her 1st husband but then waited until he was dead to remarry.

Maths girl wrote:NL

I am slowly getting round to add all my details but I have nothing on Mary A Cope/Allen/Gladders/Broomhall before she married William Gladders or more correctly before she had William Henry Gladders as that seems to have come first - I'll do her next.

William was a widower from before 1861 so as far as I know there was not a problem on his side - I didn't know whether she left her 1st husband but then waited until he was dead to remarry.

cant even see a marriage for that Allen
did you ever find one?

Nope - that is where I came to a dead end.

There should be a marriage for Mary Cope plus U/K Allen and census results for 1871, 1861,1851,and possibly even 1841 depending on when she was born and a birth certificate for her too. There could even have been children from her previous marriage as she would have been 33 by the time she had William Henry.

I haven't got her death certificate but they don't tend to tell you very much soo..

I suppose I could try burials in and around Sedgley to see if there was more info there.

some one put a link on

Sorry Peterd - I haven't worked out how to do that yet.

BCC Mother of William Henry GLADDERS - can you tell me how?

Maths girl wrote:Sorry Peterd - I haven't worked out how to do that yet.

BCC Mother of William Henry GLADDERS - can you tell me how?

click on mary cope the copy the url, click on url it highlights then copy (hold ctrl down and press c) then come to your post on bcc and paste (hold ctrl and press v)

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... nd=2548482

Ok I think this is it

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =406934952

Thank you

Peterd

Why do we apparently have different reference numbers for the same page?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =406934952
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... nd=2548482

or is that one of those mysteries that we don't need to know like how electricity works - we just accept it does!!

Anyway thank you for solving one mystery - how you were all linking in to pages!

Maths girl

Maths girl wrote:Peterd

Why do we apparently have different reference numbers for the same page?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =406934952
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... nd=2548482

or is that one of those mysteries that we don't need to know like how electricity works - we just accept it does!!

Anyway thank you for solving one mystery - how you were all linking in to pages!

Maths girl

I think it is when you update info so the page is the one before you updated the new one
I think

Thanks NL _I'll take more notice of the numbers now I know they change.

Now you can see why it is Maths girl - when they change they intrigue me!

Now back to Mary A Cope/Allen/Gladders/Broomhall

Where did she come from?? I still can't get a lead on this..

MG looks like this is a Brick wall Job

so I can either archive or Brickwall up to you

I was thinking that NL


Can we brick wall it and see if anyone fancies a challenge?

Good idea moved