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I'm strugglin' with this one

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =261060055

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poss brothers

Births Dec 1922
Smith Frederick W Dowell Dudley 6b 1526

Births Jun 1924
Smith Raymond Dowell Dudley 6b 1592

poss marriage

Marriages Sep 1907
DOWELL Alice Dudley 6c 111
PARKES Harriet Dudley 6c 111
SIDAWAY Samuel Dudley 6c 111
SMITH William Thomas Dudley 6c 111

SMITH, TREVOR IDRIS GREEN
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 165

Thankyou both

Sorry, I can't get my head around this....


SMITH, TREVOR IDRIS GREEN
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 165

His mother ? Green

peterd wrote:poss brothers

Births Dec 1922
Smith Frederick W Dowell Dudley 6b 1526

Births Jun 1924
Smith Raymond Dowell Dudley 6b 1592

So their mother was Alice Dowell?

peterd wrote:poss marriage

Marriages Sep 1907
DOWELL Alice Dudley 6c 111
PARKES Harriet Dudley 6c 111
SIDAWAY Samuel Dudley 6c 111
SMITH William Thomas Dudley 6c 111

Marriage 1907
DOWELL Alice SMITH William T Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/309

Esther Green here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=528719

Married Frederick C Smith
GREEN Esther J D SMITH Frederick 1898 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office19/3/68

Old Hill
Holy Trinity
Register entry number 68
Marriage date 25 Dec 1898
Frederick Charles SMITH 19 bachelor bolt maker Blackheath Nathan SMITH bolt maker
Esther Jane Darby GREEN 22 spinster Gorsty Hill William GREEN engine driver
Witness 1 David DARBY
Witness 2 Alice GREEN

They are the parents of Trevor Idris Smith.
Name: Trevor Idris Smith
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1907
Baptism Date: 22 May 1907
Baptism Place: Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Father:
Frederick Charles Smith
Mother:
Esther Jane Smith
Page number: 3

1911 6 Cwrt Cock St Aber Bargoed Mon
Frederick Charles Smith Head 31 Married Coal Miner Hewer Born Rowley Regis
Esther Jane Smith Wife 34 Married Brn Rowley Regis
Samuel Charles Smith Son 11 School Born Halesowen
Edith Frances Smith Daughter 9 Born Quinton
Trevor Idris Smith Son 3 Born Aberbargoed Monmouthshire


Rowley Regis
St Giles
Register entry number 348
Marriage date 13 May 1879
Nathan SMITH 20 bachelor Brick Layer Village Samuel SMITH Rivet Maker
Phoebe TAYLOR 22 spinster Village David TAYLOR Hair Dresser
Witness 1 Job TAYLOR
Witness 2 Hannah SMITH

1881 97 The Village Rowley Regis
Nathan Smith Head Mar 21 Rivet Maker Born Halesowen
Phoebe Smith Wife Mar 24 Born Rowley Regis
Fredr.C. Smith Son 1 Born Rowley Regis
Walter C. Smith Son 2 Wks Born Rowley Regis

1891 17 Birmingham Road Rowley Regis
Nathan Smith Head M 31 Stud and Carter Peg Maker Born Halesowen
Phoebe Smith Wife M 34 Born Rowley Regis
Frederick C Smith Son 11 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Albert E Smith Son 9 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Florence P Smith Daur 7 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
William S Smith Son 5 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Nellie L Smith Daur 4/12 Born Rowley Regis

1901 40 High Street Rowley Regis
Nathan Smith Head M 42 Screw Peg Maker Born Halesowen
Phoebe Smith Wife M 44 Born Halesowen
Albert E Smith Son S 18 Clothier Warehouseman Born Rowley Regis
Florence P Smith Daur S 17 General Servant Domestic Born Rowley Regis
William L Smith Son S 15 General Dealer Errand Boy Born Rowley Regis
Nellie L Smith Daur 10 Born Rowley Regis

1911 37 Green Lane, Blackheath Nr B'Ham
Nathan Smith Head 51 Married Caster Peg Maker Born Halesowen
Phoebe Smith Wife 54 Married Born Rowley Regis
Nellie Lucy Smith Daughter 20 Single Dressmaker Born Rowley Regis
Charlotte Hemmingway Boarder 33 Widow School Mistress Born Bedford


Marriage 1907
DOWELL Alice SMITH William T Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/309
1911 9 High Street Pengam Pin Cardiff
William Thomas Smith Head Married 25 Coal Miner Hewer Born Rowley Regis
Alice Smith Wife 25 Married Born Rowley Regis
Married 3 Years 0 Children

1939 26 Hanover Road Rowley Regis
William Thomas Smith M 28 Aug 1885 M (54) Plater
Alice Smith F 11 Feb 1885 M (54) Unpaid Domestic Duties
David Thomas Smith M 4 Jan 1913 S (26) Labourer Public Works
Gwyneth N Smith F 24 April 1917 S (22) Cutter Cardboard Box [Archer]

If you think this is correct i can add if you don't have time.

Marriage 1907
DOWELL Alice SMITH William T Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/309
1911 9 High Street Pengam Pin Cardiff
William Thomas Smith Head Married 25 Coal Miner Hewer Born Rowley Regis
Alice Smith Wife 25 Married Born Rowley Regis
Married 3 Years 0 Children

1939 26 Hanover Road Rowley Regis
William Thomas Smith M 28 Aug 1885 M (54) Plater
Alice Smith F 11 Feb 1885 M (54) Unpaid Domestic Duties
David Thomas Smith M 4 Jan 1913 S (26) Labourer Public Works
Gwyneth N Smith F 24 April 1917 S (22) Cutter Cardboard Box [Archer]

If you think this is correct i can add if you don't have time.

I got to here Kaye and just noticed your comment at the end

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=95463202

If you don't mind adding the rest, I would be grateful thankyou

Will do tomorrow.

HELP

I have started to add this to BCC but getting really confused

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =103734612

This marriage also for William Dowell
Rowley Regis
St Giles
Marriage date 14 Apr 1878
William DOWELL 26 widower Labourer Village William DOWELL Labourer
Elizabeth FOSTER 30 widow Village Thomas ADAMS Nailer
Witness 1 Thomas DOWELL
Witness 2 Phoebe DOWELL
Notes The bride, groom & both witnesses signed with X



births give the mothers maiden name as Parkes
DOWELL, SAMUEL SLATER
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 21

DOWELL, WILLIAM PARKES
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 26

DOWELL, ALICE PARKES
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 9

DOWELL, NELLIE PARKES
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 30

DOWELL, HORACE PARKES
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 26

I just can't work it out

1881 Census: 6 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis
William Dowell 29 Head Lab in stone quarry
Elizabeth Dowell 32 Wife nail maker
Samuel Dowell 7 Son
William Dowell 2 Son
Sarah Elizabeth Foster 6 Step Daughter born Oldbury
(others born Rowley Regis)

1891 Census: 6 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis
William Dewell 39 Head Gen Lab
Elizabeth Dewell 44
Samuel Dewell 17 Son Lab in Stone Quarry
William Dewell 12 Son
Alice Dewell 5 Dau
Nelly Dewell 3 Dau
Horace Dewell 5 mths
(all born Rowley Regis)

What I don't understand is why the children have Parkes as mothers maiden name, if Elizabeth Foster is the mother then her maiden name should be Adams according to the marriage.

Samuel fits with mother being Eliza Slater.

Yes I agree

I think we need Jimmy 'the cat'