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I have a copy of a marriage for Fredrick Harrold and Alice James 14 Sept 1891 St Luke Cradley Heath.
Fredrick Harrold 21 Bachelor Engine Driver Living Powke Lane Father Joseph Harrold Engine Driver
Alice James 23 Spinster Living Old Hill Father Ambrose James Gun Smith
Wit: David Parsons and Fanny James.
Could this be Fredrick http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =568864338

1901 188 Halesowen Road Rowley Regis
Frederick Harrold Head 30 Colliery Engine Driver
Alice Harrold Wife 32
Joseph E Harrold Son 8
Millie May Harrold Daur. 5
Frederick Harrold Son 4
Bert Baden Harrold Son 4 Mths
All born Old Hill

This looks like it may have been an error by the enumerator
1891 Census
Powke Lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Habrold, head, 55, Colliery Engine Driver
Eliza, wife, 55,
Alfred Edward, son, 20, Engine Driver
Joseph, son, 18

All born Rowley

It does look like it may be. Just seems odd that all previuos census have Alfred?
Jo

Just a thought - maybe he was known as Fred and his wife thought that Frederick was more distinguished.! and insisted in on him using it - not that I am suggesting he was hen-pecked

extracted

FREDRICK HARROLD
Birth: Parke Lane

Father: JOSEPH HARROLD



Spouse: ALICE JAMES
Birth: Old Hill

Father: AMBROSE JAMES


Marriage: 14 SEP 1891 Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, , Stafford, England

Can we run with the James family on this as i think Alice had a sister Sophia James that married David Parsons. David Parsons was a witness at Alices marriage.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =988407974

1891 Census
127, Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis,
David Parsons, head, 29, Labourer in Iron Works,
Sophia, wife, 31,
Ethel Harriet, daur, 7,
Lucy, daur, 6
David, son, 4,
Wilfred, son, 1
Same household as,
James Batty, head, 48, Coal Miner
Hannah, wife, 52, Wednesbury
Mary Ann, daur, 24
Thomas, son, 18, Gas Pipe screwer
Samuel, son, 16, Stricker for Blacksmith
James, son, 14, Warehouse boy
George H, son, 10,

1881 Census
128, Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis
Ambrose James, Head, 56, Gun Filer unemployed,
Hannah, wife, 55, Formerly a nailer
Annie daur, 23, Nailer
Hannah, daur, 15
Allis, daur, 13,
Arthur, 11
Next House,
129, Halesowen Road,
Joseph James, Head, 42, Gas Tube Maker
Annie, wife, 38, Kingswinford
Annie Baker, neice, 5, Cradley

House previous,
127, Halesowen Road,
Thomas James, head, 31, Gas Tube maker,
Martha, wife, 27,
Fanny, daur, 8,
Mary Ann, daur, 6,
Ambrose, son, 4,
Joseph, son, 2

All others born Rowley

1871 Census
Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis,
Ambrose James, head, 45, Gun Barrel Filer,
Hannah, wife, 44, formerly Nail Maker
Emeline, daur, 17,
Anne, daur, 13
Sophia, daur, 11,
Hannah, daur, 5,
Alice, daur, 3,
Arthur H, son, 1

All born Rowley

1861 Census
Haleowen Road, Ambrose James, head, 36, Gun Barrel Finisher
Hannah, wife, 24, Nail Maker
Thomas, son, 11,
Emeline, daur, 9,
Ann, daur, 3,
Sophia, daur, 1,
On previous page,
Ann Stevens, Head, w, 61, Proprietor of Houses
Thomas James, son, 30, Gun Barrel Filer,
Joseph James, son, 24, Gass tube maker,
Next door a White family, then,
Edwin James, Head, 26, Coal Miner
Hannah, wife, 22, nail Maker
Enos, son, 3,
Henry, son, 6 months

All born Rowley

1851 Census
Old Hill, Rowley Regis
Ambrose James, head, 26, Gun Filer
Hannah, wife, 24, household work
Thomas, son, 1, Dudley

Next house, Ann James, head, w , 50, Domestic work
Thomas, son, 22, Iron Miner
William, son, 20, Gun Filer,
Edwin, son, 16, Ironstone miner
Joseph, son, 13, Gun Filer
Helen, Grand daur, 1, Halesowen

All others born Rowley

1841 Census
Waterfall Bridge, Rowley
Horathia James, 60, Nailor
Ann, 40,
Ambrose, 15,
Thomas, 12,
William, 10
Edwin, 7,
Joseph, 3,

Extracted Births
Ambrose James, Wilkes Fold, 26th Sept 1824, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Ann James

Ineas James, Of Old Hill, 24th Dec 1826, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Anne James,

Joseph James, 27th July 1838, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Ann James

Info added
Marriages to be checked
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
JAMES Thomas BOWATER Martha Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/030/93

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
JAMES Emmeline SMITH Joseph Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/254

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1882
JAMES Sophia PARSONS David Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/1/98

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1893
JAMES Arthur GADD Edith Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/8/203

Unlesss otherwise advised this will now be moved to archived pending look ups

grangers14 wrote:Extracted Births
Ambrose James, Wilkes Fold, 26th Sept 1824, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Ann James

Ineas James, Of Old Hill, 24th Dec 1826, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Anne James,

Joseph James, 27th July 1838, Rowley Regis, Father Horatio James, Mother Ann James

this looks good for the bapt for Ambrose Kdw

Can we find a marriage for this Horatio
1841 Census
Waterfall Bridge, Rowley
Horathia James, 60, Nailor
Ann, 40,
Ambrose, 15,
Thomas, 12,
William, 10
Edwin, 7,
Joseph, 3,

I have looked up the marriages for Ambroses kids Emmeline and Arthur and will add link soon

just want to tie up lose end here re Ambroses parents