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*To be Archived 24hrs*Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:36 pm
by shelaghb
I know what I am about to ask will sound really pathetic to experienced people like yourselves, but I really could do with some Advice. I am looking at the Redgrave family from my mother's side. I have found James and Maggie on the 1891 census as living in Plodder Lane Farnworth with daughters Maggie and Jessie, (my Grandma). Both on the 1891 and 1901 census James is listed as coming from Camberwell Middlesex. Maggie's entry differs slightly one she is listed as Hammersmith, the other Camberwell. I also think I have found the registered death of Maggie, as she died aged 38, but it would appear that the death was registered as Charlotte M Redgrave 1907. Everything else does tie in though.
My problem is I cannot find anything for either of them in Middlesex, and I was wondering if their records could have been lost during the war.

Any advice would be greatly received.

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:22 pm
by peterd
if you have them on the 1891 and 1901 census and you know its them why do you need the death cert ?
have you checked the 1911 census for jessie, maggie jrn and father james see where they are ?

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:28 pm
by shelaghb
Thanks for replying Peterd - Sorry I haven't made myself clear - its not the death certificate I am after for Maggie, I am wanting to take James and Maggie backwards. Obviously I dont know Maggies maiden name, but I have been trying to find a marriage certificate for them and as yet been unable to find any that appear to match. I have searched for James Redgrave in the Camberwell as that is where he seems to have started out, but as yet found nothing to match. I just wondered if certain records were destroyed during the blitz.

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:31 pm
by peterd
send for jessie birth cert that should give you a maiden name for maggie ?

post your census info and we wi'll see what we can find

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:34 pm
by shelaghb
Thanks for your advice

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:37 pm
by peterd
jessie was born in lancs ? dose this tie in with the census you have?

Jessie Redgrave
Birth: 01 AUG 1890

Christening: 19 AUG 1890 Farnworth, , Lancashire, England

Father: James Redgrave
Mother: Maggie


Births Sep 1890
Redgrave Jessie Bolton 8c 341

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:49 pm
by shelaghb
Thank you very much Peter, it does seem to be spot on that. I will order the certificate and see where that takes me.

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:06 pm
by shelaghb
I'm afraid I haven't very much to offer Peter.

My Mother Jessie Burgess dob 26 January 1914 offspring of William Burgess and Jessie Redgrave.

Jessie Redgrave had sister Maggie and brother Charles that I know of

on the 1891 census they are listed as follows:

282 Plodder Lane Farnworth

James Redgrave aged 31 Grocer Manager Middlesex Camberwell

Maggie Redgrave aged 23 Middlesex Hammersmith

Maggie Jnr aged 2 years Lancs Pendlebury

Jessie aged 8 months. Lancs Farnworth

1901 Census they are listed

46 Birley Street Pendleton West Salford

James Redgrave aged 42 Butchers Assistant London Camberwell

Margaret Redgrave aged 32 London Camberwell

Maggie aged 11 Lancashire Pendlebury

Jessie aged 9 Lancashire Farnworth

James aged 4 Patricroft

Charles aged 2 patricroft

Margaret 32 Manchester

Thats about it really

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:18 pm
by peterd
your census confirm jessie was born in lancs though here parents from london so getting that birth cert will give you her mothers maiden name

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:22 pm
by peterd
this could be marriage but get that cert to prove it

Marriages Sep 1889

EWER Henry Bethnal Green 1c 548
Joyce Emma Bethnal Green 1c 548
Redgrave James William Bethnal Green 1c 548
Swan Jessie Bethnal Green 1c 548

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:47 pm
by shelaghb
Will do Peter and thanks again

Re: Advice needed please

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:37 pm
by grangers14
To be Archived.
Jo :)