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Hi

Jessie & Elizabeth are relations of my grandmother, Elsie Rebecca Allen nee Barrett.

I believe that they were UK born but lived in Pittsburgh.

Elizabeth remained a spinster but Jessie married, ?married name Kinder and had children.

I haven't been able to find any trace of them.

Thanks

Patrick

Which area are we talking about in the UK?

Good question!

My grandmother was born in Halesowen in 1909.

Should that be 1907? D you have any other information on her mother or Jessie and Elizabeths family?

BARRETT, ELSIE REBECCA -
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 164

ELSIE R
Last name BARRETT
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1928
Horace Allen

Spouse's last name Allen
District Stourbridge

1939. 83 George Road, Halesowen
Horace Allen, 20 Jan 1904, Car Body Mounter
Elsie R Allen, 02 Feb 1907, Unpaid Domestic Duties
Closed record
Roy F Allen, 07 Dec 1930,

I think this is Horaces Father https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=500390
Mother https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=500390

ALLEN Francis HOBBIS Mary A 1898 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/007/232

ALLEN Horace BARRETT Elsie R 1928 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/011/230

Allen / Powell connection

West Bromwich St Peter.
Marriage date 04 Aug 1901.
Groom forename Jesse POWELL. 31. bachelor. Labourer. Greets Green Rd. Thomas POWELL. miner.
Elizabeth ALLEN. 28. spinster. High St. Henry ALLEN. Platelayer.
Witness Joseph JONES.
Witness Fanny ALLEN.

Do you have any ages for the powells ? or when they were in Pittsburgh.

Jessie and Elizabeth are both female.

They lived in Pittsburgh certainly for all of their adult lives and died between 1980 and 2000.

Elsie Rebecca DOB was 1907, sorry!


Thanks for the input so far, greatly appreciated.

Have you got them in Pittsburgh and what relationship were they to Elsie ?

That's the thing. I cannot find them on Pittsburgh nor the UK. I only know that they were related to the Barrett side of the family.

I have found Benjamins sister Sarah married Thomas Powell and went to live in Pennsylvania .

This is the info i have for Sarah Barrett.
BARRETT, SARAH SAWYER
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 444


Sarah Barratt
Christening
27 Jun 1855
Halesowen, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
William Barratt
Mother's Name:
Sarah

Sarah Barrett
Thomas Powell
Marriage
Event Date:
17 Jan 1864
Event Place:
Saint Kenelms, Romsley, Worcester, England

1871 Gibbet Lane Hasbury
Thomas Powell Head Mar 28 Coal Miner Born Hasbury
Sarah Powell Wife Mar 26 Born Halesowen
William Powell Son 6 Scholar Born Hasbury
Maria Powell Daur 4 Scholar Born Hasbury
Sarah Powell Daur 10/12 Born Hasbury

1881 Gibbett Lane Hasbury
Sarah Powell Wife Mar 34
William Powell Son 16 Coal Miner
Sarah Powell Daur 10 Scholar
Alice Powell Daur 8 Scholar
Harry Powell Son 6 Scholar
Amy Powell Daur 4
Thomas Powell Son 3
Julia H. Powell Daur 1

1900 Union Washington Pennsylvania
Thomas Powell Head 57 Jan 1843 35 years Mar 13 Children 11 Living Im 1880 Coal Miner England
Sarah Powell Wife 55. Feb 1845 Im 1882 England
Sarah Powell Daur 30. May 1870 School Teacher Im 1882 England
Thomas Powell Son 22.Coal Miner Im 1882 England
Rebecca K Powell Daur 16. Jun 1883 Im 1884 England
Jean Powell Daur 14. Aug 1885 Penn At School
Frank L Powell Son 12.Dec 1887 Penn At School

1910 Union Washington Pennsylvania
Thomas Powell Head 67 Labourer Coal Mine England
Sarah Powell Wife 65 None England
Sarah Powell Daur 39 School Teacher England
Harry Powell Son 35 Labourer Coal Mine England
Thomas Powell Son 32 Labourer Coal Mine England
Jean Powell Daur 24 Stenographer Pennsylvania
Harry Powell Grandson 7 Prennsylvania
Elizabeth Powell Grand Daur 4 Pennsylvania
Sarah Powell Grand Daur 3 Pennsylvania


Name: Mrs Sarah Pawell
[Sarah Powell]
[Mrs Sarah Barrett]
[Mrs Sarah Banet]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 74
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1845
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 9 May 1919
Death Place: Union, Washington, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: William Barrett
Mother: Sarah Sawer

Name: Sarah Powell
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1845
Death Date: 9 May 1919
Cemetery: Mingo Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Finleyville, Washington County, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Thomas Powell
Children: William Charles Powell
Francis Llewellyn Powell
Jean Miriam Powell
Julia Hannah Stoffel
Sarah Powell

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/113650356

Trying to find a connection, according to Julias Bio she had a child Jesse. There is Elizabeth a Grandaughter of Thomas and Sarah in 1910

St John The Baptist Halesowen
1898
232 1 May
Francis ALLEN 21 B Labourer New Street Hasbury Father Francis Allen Miner
Mary Ann HOBBIS 21 S Factory Hand Quarry Lane Hasbury Father Thomas Hobbis (Dec) Nail Maker
after Banns Both signed
Wit; Job Grove/ Mary Allen

1928
230 15 Dec
Horace ALLEN 28 B Nail Maker 27 Wall Well Halesowen Father Francis Allen Nail Maker
Elsie Rebecca BARRETT 21 S 376 Hagley Road Halesowen Father (Blank)
Wit; Clifford Shilvock / Hilda Allen

Image available on Ancestry.

Julia H. Powell.
Age: 17. Birth Date: abt 1881.
Marriage Date: 16 Jan 1898.
Marriage Place: Washington, Pennsylvania.
Father: Thomas Powell.
Mother: Powell
Spouse: Charles G. Stoffee.
Film Number: 001319807.

Ancestry.
Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current.

Julia Stoffel II.
Death Age: 80.
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1880.
Birth Place: Eng.
Death Date: 24 Mar 1960.
Death Place: Houston Run .
Obituary Date: 25 Mar 1960.
Obituary Place: Monongahela, Pennsylvania.
Child: Jessie C. Kinder.
Helen Bar.
Jean Shilkun.
Har - !
Thomas C. Stoffel.
Ernest L. Stoffel.
Rebecca Robson.

Jessie C. Kinder.
Social Security Number: 200-20-2917.
Birth Date: 3 May 1900.
Issue Year: Before 1951.
Issue State: Pennsylvania.
Last Residence: 15332, Finleyville, Washington, Pennsylvania.
Death Date: 6 Nov 1989.