Genealogy Forum UK

I'm brand new on the forum, live in Australia and would like to trace any ancestors on my grand fathers side
All I have available is the following information

Surname :MARSDEN
First name: Edward
Second Name: William

Occupation: Thames Lighterman (Journeyman)

Wife's Name: Marsden (formerly Rodrick)
First Name:Eliza
Second Name: Mary

I do have a certified copy of a birth entry of one of their children which I can scan and email to any forum member who would be kind enough to help. The birth registration district is Poplar and Bethnal Green in London, the birth was registered in July 1907

Any help greatly appreciated

Pkay

hi pkay and welcome to the forum this might be best if move to general disscusion i cant move it but nl proberly will so if it vanishes that where it will be

poss marriage

Marriages Sep 1895

Marsden Edward William Poplar 1c 973
Rodrick Eliza Mary Poplar 1c 973


so anyone find them on the 1901 census please

two more of edwards and eliza kids pkay ?

Births Dec 1912
MARSDEN Thomas W Rodrick Poplar 1c 1031

Births Sep 1914
Marsden Ernest A Rodrick Poplar 1c 1044


have you manage to find edward and eliza in the 1911 census ? pkay

Poss
1901
16 Cording Street, Bromley, London
Edward W Marsden 32 - Lighterman Barge - b Stepmay?
Eliza W Marsden 28 - b Hackney
Florence E Marsden 4 - b Bromley
Edward J Marsden 3 - b Bromley
Harold E Marsden 8 months - b Bromley

Gosh ...that was quick and incredible...thank you all for the rapid response

I can confirm from the birth certificate, a daughter Hilda Alice was born on 21st july 1907, and that edward william marsden and eliza mary marsden (formerly rodrick) were living at that time at 16 cording street bromley

FarSide wrote:Poss
1901
16 Cording Street, Bromley, London
Edward W Marsden 32 - Lighterman Barge - b Stepmay?
Eliza W Marsden 28 - b Hackney
Florence E Marsden 4 - b Bromley
Edward J Marsden 3 - b Bromley
Harold E Marsden 8 months - b Bromley

poss born stepney carnt find him on 1881 nor her any luck with earliers census fs ?

Poss
1891
609
Wodesworth? or Wondesconth Road, Clapham
Samuel Marston 63 - Boiley? maker - b Moan Park county Ireland
Hannah Marston 63 - b Darlaston Stafforshire
Louisa Marston 33 - Dressmaker - b Deptford? Surrey
Hannah Marston 31 - Dressmaker - b Bristol Somerset
Edward Marston 22 - Fitter - Hurney? London
Charles Marston 18 - Telegraph Clerk - Hurney? London

FarSide wrote:Poss
1891
609
Wodesworth? or Wondesconth Road, Clapham
Samuel Marston 63 - Boiley? maker - b Moan Park county Ireland
Hannah Marston 63 - b Darlaston Stafforshire
Louisa Marston 33 - Dressmaker - b Deptford? Surrey
Hannah Marston 31 - Dressmaker - b Bristol Somerset
Edward Marston 22 - Fitter - Hurney? London
Charles Marston 18 - Telegraph Clerk - Hurney? London

1881 all different agian

1881 609 Wandsworth Rd Sth Clapham, Surrey

Samuel MARSTON Head M Male 53 Kilkeel, Ireland Boiler Maker
Hannah MARSTON Wife M Female 52 Darliston, Stafford, England
Ann L. MARSTON Dau U Female 23 Deptford, Kent, England Housemaid
William MARSTON Son U Male 17 Battersea, Surrey, England Apprentice Copper Smith
Ellen MARSTON Dau Female 14 Battersea, Surrey, England Scholar
Edward T. MARSTON Son Male 12 Clapham, Surrey, England Scholar
Charles S. MARSTON Son Male 8 Battersea, Surrey, England Scholar


think the best way forward here pkay is if you were to obtian the wedding cert for william and eliza to see who there father were ?

"I think the best way forward here pkay is if you were to obtain the wedding cert for william and eliza to see who there father were ?"

sadly the only documentation i have is the birth certificate of their daughter hilda alice marsden...is there a link to an internet site in the UK where i could apply online for a copy of their marriage certificate ? (I live permanently in Australia)

I have no idea where they married in the UK or in which year

pkay wrote:"I think the best way forward here pkay is if you were to obtain the wedding cert for william and eliza to see who there father were ?"

sadly the only documentation i have is the birth certificate of their daughter hilda alice marsden...is there a link to an internet site in the UK where i could apply online for a copy of their marriage certificate ? (I live permanently in Australia)

I have no idea where they married in the UK or in which year

here the link pkay

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


fs you ever used this service whats it like ?

1901
16 Cording Street, Bromley, London
Edward W Marsden 32 - Lighterman Barge - b Stepmay?
Eliza W Marsden 28 - b Hackney
Florence E Marsden 4 - b Bromley
Edward J Marsden 3 - b Bromley
Harold E Marsden 8 months - b Bromley


this information seems to be the family I am searching for, as the names of the two parents are correct and i have confirmed details from another source that Edward John Marsden was one of their children who was born in 1898 (sadly was killed in France in 1918 in WW1)

was the info above for these 5 people taken from a 1901 census ?

pkay wrote:1901
16 Cording Street, Bromley, London
Edward W Marsden 32 - Lighterman Barge - b Stepmay?
Eliza W Marsden 28 - b Hackney
Florence E Marsden 4 - b Bromley
Edward J Marsden 3 - b Bromley
Harold E Marsden 8 months - b Bromley


this information seems to be the family I am searching for, as the names of the two parents are correct and i have confirmed details from another source that Edward John Marsden was one of their children who was born in 1898 (sadly was killed in France in 1918 in WW1)

was the info above for these 5 people taken from a 1901 census ?

yes it is the 1901 they seem to be the correct family its after that we seem to have a problem finding the right edward thats why if you got the wedding cert for edward and eliza we whold also have the fathers name and poss witness might be family also .

Marriages Sep 1895

Marsden Edward William Poplar 1c 973
Rodrick Eliza Mary Poplar 1c 973

looks like poplar is a part of tower hamlets now

http://www.thbmd.co.uk/history.php

looks like the gro site better for ordering your cert pkay as tower hamlet dont do online

http://www.thbmd.co.uk/ordering.php

This could be Edward in 1871 census but I can't find this family in between (apart from Ada who is a servant in 1881 I think)

Mile End Old Town, 1871
William T Marsden, 46, lighterman, Surrey, Bermondsey
Emma ditto, 40, Surrey, Bookham
Emma ditto, 17, domestic servant unemployed,, Surrey, Bermondsey
Arthur ditto,9, scholar, Middlesex, Poplar
Ada ditto,6, ditto, Middlesex,Stepney
Maria ditto, 4,ditto
Edward ditto, 2 ditto

Guess it falls back to the wedding certificate.

My sincere thanks to all who replied, particularly Farside, who came up with the exact Marsden family from the 1901 census...yes Farside...this is the one ...well done ..loved that new spelling for Stepney

1901
16 Cording Street, Bromley, London
Edward W Marsden 32 - Lighterman Barge - b Stepmay?
Eliza W Marsden 28 - b Hackney
Florence E Marsden 4 - b Bromley
Edward J Marsden 3 - b Bromley
Harold E Marsden 8 months - b Bromley

Thanks also to Peterd for the link to Tower Hamlets...I went on that site and rapidly found the two Marsden adults on their search engine and have just sent off a letter requesting copies of the marriage certificate ...only eight pounds including postage to australia

Will be back for more advice when i get the marriage certificate from Tower Hamlets, hopefully within the next two or three weeks

Thanks to all who provided so much help....Pkay