Page 1 of 2

*Arc TBC* marriage can anyone add ? Jo Adding.

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:07 pm
by peterd
Marriages Jun 1912
Dyas John H Griffiths Stourbridge 6c 208
Griffiths Edith Dyas Stourbridge 6c 208

are they these two

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... QuMs2jwAXg



https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... b30JlxCF4c

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:17 pm
by peterd
just got this info permission to post it left the living out only as son

HI Peter,

Edith Griffiths was born October 5, 1891 at 79 Hacket St Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England (source is GRO birth record); her obit indicated Oct 9th, but I have found obits to have incorrect information on occasion.

She married
John Henry Dyas on 26 May 1912 at the Parish Church of Blackheath in the Counties of Worcester and Stafford.
Father of the bride is Thomas Griffiths; deceased, chemical worker;
father of the groom is Samuel Dyas; Coal Agent;
Witnesses: John Cole, Elizabeth Southall.

Edith passed away on 7 July 1948 (during surgery) in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada.

They had 3 children:

my grandmother Dorothy Gertrude Dyas (as I mentioned previously only her birth record shows her names switched as Gertrude Dorothy) born on Nov 22, 1912 at 285 Causeway Green Road in Oldbury, Birmingham, England; d 21 May 1966;

son still living also in Birmingham, England

Margaret Joyce Dyas born 19 Oct 1929 in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada; d. 23 Nov 1933 also in Oshawa.

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:17 pm
by peterd
I will send Edith's parents next

Edith's mother is Ruth Mason born 17 December 1856 in Blackheath, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire to parents Silas Mason; Coal miner and Elizabeth Cooper.

She married Thomas Griffiths, labourer 25 December 1877 at the Parish Church in Blackheath of the County of Worcester. Father is Silas Mason, Miner;
Thomas' father is George Griffiths, Boat Loader.

According to her Probate record dated 9 Jun 1950, Ruth Mason (Griffiths) died on 24 Jan 1949 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire (Burton House, Dudley, Worcestershire).

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:19 pm
by peterd
Knowing that Thomas Griffiths father was George Griffiths and having several DNA matches with this family line for myself and my uncle Harry, I am certain that the George Griffths born 1825 in Great Bridge, Staffordshire married to Phoebe Slim born 1828 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire are his parents.

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:21 pm
by peterd
Ruth Mason's father
Silas was born about 1837; he was baptized 19 Mar 1837 at St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

to parents John Mason and Eliza Elwell;

he married Elizabeth Cooper abt Jan/Feb/Mar 1856.

They only had one child that I could find and that was Ruth.

Sadly, Silas died in a tragic workplace accident on 13 Jan 1869 Blackheath, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire in a coal pit. death record: 31 years; Coal miner; crushed by a fall of coal in a coal pit. Information received from Edwin Hooper, coroner for Staffordshire; inquest held 15th January 1869; registered Jan 21, 1869. He was buried on 17 Jan, 1869 in Rowley Regis.


eliza and john https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=471816

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:30 pm
by peterd
Dorothy Gertrude Dyas married Francis Clinton James Crowell (Frank) 10 Nov 1936 in Whitby, Ontario, Canada;

they had 2 children:

Carol Cecilia Crowell born 26 March 1938 and died 28 Nov 1939 both in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada;

Franklin William Henry Crowell (my Dad) born 11 Jun 1941; died 1 Dec 2002; both in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada.

Dorothy's husband Frank died 23 Dec 1950 in Oshawa;

Dorothy remarried Philip Warren Orde 17 Oct 1953 in Oshawa; no children; she passed away 21 May 1966 in Port Perry, Ontario, Canada.

Re: possible marriage

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:35 pm
by peterd
I just thought that I should mention that John Henry Dyas' obituary (he died 11 Aug 1967 in Oshawa) incorrectly stated his parents as "Thomas and Elsie". I asked my great uncle Harry about this as he would have been involved at the time, but he didn't know why it said that so we assumed that it was due to John Henry's second wife (Mary Cummings Stevenson) likely did the obit with incorrect information. I found John Henry in the England census with different parents, so I had to order the marriage record to know for sure. Thanks again!

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:54 pm
by rockyfowler
26 May 1812 St Paul Blackheath
John Henry DYAS 22 B Moulder 17 Maple Road Blackheath Father Samuel Dyas Coal Agent
Edith GRIFFITHS 20 S 131 Hackett Street Blackheath Father Thomas Griffiths (Dec) Chemical Worker
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; John Cole / Elizabeth Southall

Blackheath St Paul Baptisms
383 6 Dec Edith daughter of Thomas Griffiths Labourer & Ruth Mason from 79 Hackett Street Blackheath

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:29 pm
by peterd
San Carol who gave me this information has info on that possible evans connection you mention do you want her contact details

Photo taken by San....
I have taken a photo of this grave because Dyas could be connected to Evans but not found connection as yet.

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:18 pm
by mallosa
Hmmmm....interesting! Yes please Pete :grin:

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:26 pm
by grangers14
Are all certificates viewable or do you have them Pete? Other than RF's look up?
It would be best to have confirmation to view before it is added to the tree. :)

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:36 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:Are all certificates viewable or do you have them Pete? Other than RF's look up?
It would be best to have confirmation to view before it is added to the tree. :)



the person who sent the info has the certs i will see if she can scan them if you need them

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:47 pm
by peterd
topic originated from a dna site on facebook jo

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2512553 ... p_activity

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:23 pm
by grangers14
OK Pete. I am not saying the info is incorrect.
We go by certificates and look ups as best we can so the info is as correct as it can be.
Not doubting you or your contact.
So yes it would be best for certificates to be sent. :)

Re: marriage can anyone add ?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:56 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:OK Pete. I am not saying the info is incorrect.
We go by certificates and look ups as best we can so the info is as correct as it can be.
Not doubting you or your contact.
So yes it would be best for certificates to be sent. :)


i've asked that all i can do