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*Arc tbc*-Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:21 pm
by bryanspink
Hi!
First time on here!
I'm looking for information about Thomas Willetts or Whitehouse, born abt 1850 in Cradley. I think he married Lydia Harlow in 1879 in the Derby district.
Any information appreciated. This is some of what I have.
Bryan

Marriages Jun 1879
HARLOW Lydia Derby 7b 744
Slater Ann Derby 7b 744
WHITEHOUSE THOMAS Derby 7b 744
WHITTINGHAM ARTHUR Derby 7b 744

1881 Census - 45 Yates Street, Litchurch, Derby, England
FHL Film 1341814 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3403 Folio 13 Page 19
Thomas WHITEHOUSE M 31 M Cradely Forge, Worcester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Puddler
Lydia WHITEHOUSE M 25 F Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Wife
Lydia A. WHITEHOUSE 3 F Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Daur
Aurthur WHITEHOUSE 1 M Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Son
Dwelling: Lyde Green
Census Place: Cradley, Worcester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341692 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2884 Folio 40 Page 26

1901 Census - 8 Midland Road, Masborough, Rotherham, West Riding of Yorkshire.
Thomas Willetts 52 Iron Works Labourer Cradley, Worcs
Lydia Willetts 45 Derby, DBYS
James Willetts 16 Iron Moulder Derby, DBYS
Herbert Willetts 10 Rotherham
Minnie Willetts 8 Rotherham
George Davis Nephew 18 Iron Moulder Derby, DBYS
Walter Burgham S-in-L 24 Iron Works Labourer Rotherham
Edith Burgham 1 Rotherham

Lydia A (Nancy) married Walter Bingham 1898 (Rotherham)
Minnie married William O'Malley 1910 (Rotherham)
James married Maud?

Thomas Herbert married Mary Spencer 1916 Rotherham and he was buried on 18/4/1941 - according to my grandfather's diary. Mary was the sister of my GGGrandfather

1901 Census - Rotherham, West Riding of Yorkshire.
Arthur Willetts 21 Puddler at Iron Works Derby, DBYS
{A possibility}
Arthur married Florence M Bruce in 1900 (Rotherham)

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:45 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi and welcome to the forum
:grin: :wink:

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:40 am
by FarSide
Hi Bryanspinks

Welcome to the forum

If it wasn't for the marriage 1879, I'd say the transcriber didn't have his black country ears on, Willetts/Whitehouse does sound kinda similar, but he's a Whitehouse on the marriage data you posted :?

Are these of any help

1881 Census - 45 Yates Street, Litchurch, Derby, England
FHL Film 1341814 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3403 Folio 13 Page 19
Thomas WHITEHOUSE M 31 M Cradely Forge, Worcester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Puddler
Lydia WHITEHOUSE M 25 F Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Wife
Lydia A. WHITEHOUSE 3 F Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Daur
Aurthur WHITEHOUSE 1 M Derby, Derby, England
Rel: Son


I see this family of Harlow's living next door poss Lydia's parents and sibs

1881
next door (quite an age diff)
at 44
Yates Street
Joseph Harlow 54 - Head - General labourer - b Stafford Burton
Phobe Harlow 78 - wife - b Stafford Burton - Blind last 5 years
Emma Harlow 18 - Silk winder factory
Charles Harlow 17 - General labourer
Samuel Harlow 14 - this has been crossed out
Fanny Harlow 14 - Silk winder factory
others b Derby

1891 (def Willetts on page)
4
Jower? Street, Rotherham
Thomas Wille 40 - Puddler - b Cradley forge
Lydia Wille 36
Eliza Wille 14 (does look like Eliza crossed out)
Arthur Wille 11
James Wille 6
Herbert T Wille 7/12 - b Yorkshire Masborough
others b Derby

Marriages Jun 1916
Spencer Mary Willetts Rotherham 9c 1420
Willetts Herbert Spencer Rotherham 9c 1420

Marriages Dec 1909
LAUNDERS Mary Ann Rotherham 9c 1181
PATTRICK David Page Rotherham 9c 1181
SAUNDERS Mary Ann Rotherham 9c 1181
WILLETTS James Henry Rotherham 9c 1181
WILSON Maude Mary Rotherham 9c 1181

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:03 am
by FarSide
Poss Lydia's family

Marriages Dec 1847
Harlow Joseph Burton on T 17 5
Startin Fanny Burton 17 5

1851 (def Harlow on image)
93
Horninglow, Derbyshire
Joseph Harton 26 - Ag Lab
Fanny Harton 23 - b Hartshorne, Derbyshire
Eliza Harton 2
others b Horninglow, Staffordshire

next door
92
William Harton 66 - Farm lab crops? 4 acres - b Horninglow, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Harton 65 - b Hartshorne, Derbyshire
Martin Pettett 26 - Lodger - Cooper - b Sent Ives, Huntingdonshire

lots of Harlows on the next page

1861
13 Castle Street, Derby
Joseph Harlow 36 - Gardners labourer - b Staffordshire
Fanny Harlow 32 - b Staffordshire
Eliza Harlow 12 - b Staffordshire
Lydia Harlow 9 - b Horninglow, Staffordshire
Artha Homes 6 Mo - parents unknown - b Horninglow, Staffordshire
William Foster 16 - Lodger - Gardners labourer - b Derby

1871
32 Russel Street, Litchurch
Joseph Harlow 45 - Labourer Vict. iron works - b Horninglow?, Staffordshire
Fanny Harlow 42 - Housekeeper - b Derby Brebby?
William Harlow 19 - Puddler Vict. iron works - b Horninglow?, Staffordshire
Lydia Harlow 14 - Factory hand
Emma Harlow 8
Charles Harlow 6
Fanny Harlow 3
George Pate 46 - Lodger - Widow - Puddler Vict. iron works - b West Bromwich
others b Derby

Poss Fanny's death
Deaths Sep 1872
HARLOW Fanny 44 Derby 7b 298


Poss Joseph's 2nd marriage
Marriages Jun 1873
HARLOW Joseph Derby 7b 821
Harris Phoebe Derby 7b 821

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 am
by linell
Hi Bryan, here is Thomas in 1851 Quarry Bank and Cradley Forge 1861. Quarry Bank is on the Staffordshire side of the River Stour and Cradley is on the Worcestershire side, the two places are virtually seperated by the River.

1851 Quarry Bank Kingswinford Staffs
Thomas Whitehouse 43 Iron Forgeman born Old Swinford
Elizabeth Wife 36 Rowley Regis
John 17 Cradley
Caroline 15 Rowley Regis
James 7 Cradley
Emily 6 Cradley
Thomas 3 Cradley

1861 Cradley Forge Worcs

Thomas Whitehouse HD 52 Forge Labourer Old Swinford
Elizabeth Wife 49 Rowley Regis
Jane 17 Cradley
Emily 16 Cradley
Thomas 12 Cradley
William 11 Quarry Bank Kingswinford
Elizabeth 7 Quarry Bank Kingswinford
Caroline 4 Quarry Bank Kingswinford

Linell.

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:23 am
by linell
Think this is the Marriage for Thomas Snr to Elizabeth Willetts 17.3.1833 Old Swinford.

Best Wishes from Linell.

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:12 am
by bryanspink
FarSide wrote:Marriages Dec 1909
LAUNDERS Mary Ann Rotherham 9c 1181
PATTRICK David Page Rotherham 9c 1181
SAUNDERS Mary Ann Rotherham 9c 1181
WILLETTS James Henry Rotherham 9c 1181
WILSON Maude Mary Rotherham 9c 1181


Thanks for this. The births of their children all show up with mothers name of Wilson on FreeBMD in Rotherham.

Deaths Mar 1925 (95%)
Willetts James H 40 Rotherham 9c 823

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
Willetts Lydia 46 Rotherham 9c 386

Re: Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:02 pm
by Northern Lass
Flagging to see if you need any more info Bryan?

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

Re: *Arc tbc*-Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:26 pm
by bryanspink
Hi!
Yes I think I've gone as far as I can with this one for the moment.
Thanks everyone.
Bryan

Re: *Arc tbc*-Thomas Willetts/Whitehouse

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:16 am
by Northern Lass
Hi Bryan
Ok will archive it thanks for getting back to us
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