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Hi, In 1856 my G.Grandfather William Frederick LEEDHAM married Ann SMART, not long after William went to Nova Scotia with three brothers and he died out there of Typhus in 1863. Ann SMART then married again in 1869 an Abraham WARDLE in Rowley Regis. the children of LEEDHAM and WARDLE were born in Rowley Regis.are there any relations around of these two families.
Mike.

Hi Mike, here is the link from BCC with Ann and her parents, do you want to trace them further back? Best Wishes from Linell.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =221365730

Lin Oh Lin, Yes I would !...getting into some good stuff now with the SMART and DARBY families, strikes me though the LEEDHAMS were a bit carefree?
Thanks Lin..Mike.

We can add to BCC as we go too!

How is the hand Mike any better?

We can look up any queries too at the archives.

Good morning Jan...Yes much better thank you, I do appreciate you doing that, I think it would be beyond me ! the BCC is a super site and so well organised.
Best wishes...Mike.

Morning

What are we tracing Back then the Smarts or Leedhams

We tend to have separate threads for different families
so you let us know what you wish to trace back eg Smarts on this one
and then are you ok on the Leedhams
or is it another branch off you need?

So this is your link.....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =479346754

the marriage for James Smart and Phoebe Darby
08 Jul 1832
Halesowen
Marriage Witnesses were Joseph Foley and Hannah Eliza Foley.

poss pheobe

PHEBE DARBY
Christening: 14 MAY 1815 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

WILLM. DARBY
PHEBE


siblings

WILLM. DARBY
Christening: 21 MAY 1820 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JAMES DARBY
Christening: 01 MAR 1818 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

THOS. DARBY
Christening: 30 MAY 1813 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

the marriage for James Smart and Phoebe Darby
08 Jul 1832
Halesowen
Marriage Witnesses were Joseph Foley and Hannah Eliza Foley.

are these so james poss had a sister hannah

JOSEPH FOLEY
HANNAH ELIZA SMART
Marriage: 15 NOV 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Well Mike what do you think looks possible doesnt it?

If you would like I can look up that marriage
might hit lucky with witnesses

can anyone find James Smart on later census to get an accurate dob
or a bapt for him and poss sister Hannah Eliza Smart

Poss
1841
Knowle, Rowley
James Smart 30 - Furnaceman
Pheby Smart 25
Ann Smart 8
Emma Smart 6
Mark Smart 4
all b in c

1851 (def Smart)
95
Springfield, Rowley
James Sonarte 40 - Furnance labourer - b Dudley
Pheba Sonarte 37
Ann Sonarte 18
Mark Sonarte 13
Hannah Sonarte 8
others b Rowley

1861
25
Knowle, Rowley
'Grocers shop'
James Smart 56 - Shopkeeper - b Dudley
Phebe Smart 46
Mark Smart 23 - Labourer
Hannah Smart 18
others b Rowley

Hi, Jan looks very good as you say !.....is that spelling Sonarte, typical of the verbal mistake that clerics did on documents, or what?

Cheers.. Mike.

mikleed wrote:Hi, Jan looks very good as you say !.....is that spelling Sonarte, typical of the verbal mistake that clerics did on documents, or what?

Cheers.. Mike.

Hi that is the transcribed view on I think Ances?
on the actual image it says Smart.
we tend to post as it is transcribed so that others can find it on ancestry
but put a note on as we look at the actual image too to verify...or we should do! ....so like Farside has done there she has posted as
the transcribed entry and gone into the actual image and noted the actual name the enumerator has written.
We don't rely on the transcribed results as they are not correct at times.

Family search doesnt seem to be working at the mo
maintenance I think

But can we find a bapt for this James Smart and Hannah Eliza I couldnt see one.

Mike if you would like that marriage looked up for Hannah Eliza you need to request a look up in the look up requests section
So go there
find the thread called Dudley and Smethwick archives post here
add it to that thread in this format

*Mikleed*
Q Witnesses please and all info
JOSEPH FOLEY
HANNAH ELIZA SMART
Marriage: 15 NOV 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

and I will add it to the list
may or may not reveal clues

FarSide wrote:Poss
1841
Knowle, Rowley
James Smart 30 - Furnaceman
Pheby Smart 25
Ann Smart 8
Emma Smart 6
Mark Smart 4
all b in c

1851 (def Smart)
95
Springfield, Rowley
James Sonarte 40 - Furnance labourer - b Dudley
Pheba Sonarte 37
Ann Sonarte 18
Mark Sonarte 13
Hannah Sonarte 8
others b Rowley

1861
25
Knowle, Rowley
'Grocers shop'
James Smart 56 - Shopkeeper - b Dudley
Phebe Smart 46
Mark Smart 23 - Labourer
Hannah Smart 18
others b Rowley

anyone able to add this census info to James Smart please?

Jan.....I did as you requested....hope I did it right!....... please tell me off by email if I have not.
Mike.

mikleed wrote:Jan.....I did as you requested....hope I did it right!....... please tell me off by email if I have not.
Mike.

You have done it fine Mike and I have added to the list
will let you know what the info is
hoping a James Smart is a witness.