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This is from David Hill born 1870 Thread


Jimmy wrote :-
can't see anything on Ellen Bradley's father James,

1881. "Dudley Union Workhouse" Burton Road Sedgley.
Alfred Bradley 9. Dudley.
Ellen Bradley 8. Dudley.
James Bradley 6. Dudley.

BRADLEY, ALFRED WILLIAMS.
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 155.

BRADLEY, ELLEN WILLIAMS.
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 153.

BRADLEY, JAMES WILLIAMS.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 111.


1891. 24 Cemetery Row, Kidderminster.
Emma Bradley 50. widow. Birmingham.
Alfred Bradley 20. Son. Dudley.
James Bradley 16. Son. Dudley.
Mary Bradley 22. Dau. Dudley.
Annie Bradley 10. Dau. Kidderminster.

Is it possible that father of Ellen Bradley is John and not James
as found Freereg marriage 23/11/1857 St. John the Evangelist Kates Hill Dudley
John Bradley 28 (Widower) Bricklayer Dudley father Thomas Bradley Bricklayer
Emma Williams 17 Spinster Dudley father Thomas Williams Anvil Maker
Witnesses :- John Stacey Williams & Prudence Williams

1871 Census Swan Street Dudley Worcs.
John Bradley Head 34 Bricklayer born Gornal Staffs.
Emma Bradley wife 30 born Birmingham Warks.
Emily Bradley dau 11
John Bradley son 10
Thomas Bradley son 8
William Bradley son 6 born Gornal Staffs.
Walter Bradley son 4
Mary A. Bradley dau 2
Alfred Bradley son 6 weeks
Rest born Dudley Worcs.

Family search
Ellen Bradley.
Birth Date 10 Nov 1872.
Christening Date 11 Dec 1872.
Christening Place SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER.
Father's John Bradley.
Mother's Emma.

Age is out on census but right address,

Dudley St Thomas.
Burial date 29 Mar 1874.
John BRADLEY 45.
Burial person abode Swan Street.
Notes Died 25 Mar.
Transcribed by Christine Pritchard.
File line number 3171.

Must be John Bradley and not James asa everything ties up

Looks like it.

1861. Hills Lane, Madeley.
John Bradley 27. Bricklayer. Dudley.
Emma Bradley 20. Dudley
John Bradley 3. Gornal.
Emily Bradley 2. Cornhill, Staffs.

1851. 5 Bath Street, Dudley.
Thos Williams 31. Anvil maker. Dudley.
Mary A Williams 22.
Ann Williams 12.
Emma Williams 10.
Wm Williams 6.
Thos Williams 4.
John Williams 2.
Joseph Williams 4 Mo.

Others born Rowley.

WILLIAMS, EMMA PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in ASTON UNION Volume 16 Page 156.

WILLIAMS, JOSEPH PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 285.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 17 Sep 1838.
Thomas WILLIAMS. full age. Bachelor. Dudley. Anvil smith. John WILLIAMS. Anvil smith.
Mary Ann PARKES. full age. Spinster. Nailor. Rowley Regis. Thomas PARKES. Nailor.
Witness 1 Joseph MARSH?
Witness 2 Maris CLIFT.

Not sure about this John's age is out,
1851. Dudley Road Sedgley.
Thomas Bradley 48. Bricklayer and shop keeper
Ann Bradley 48.
John Bradley 23. Bricklayer.
Hannah Parker 17. servant.

All born Sedgley.

1841. Sedgley.
Thomas Bradleys. 34. Bricklayer.
Ann Bradleys. 36.
Sarah Bradleys. 14.
John Bradleys. 12.

10 May 1891 St Giles Rowley Regis
David Hill 21 B Carter Old Hill Father John Hill Miner
Ellen BRADLEY 21 S Rowley Regis Father James Bradley Brick Layer
After Banns David Signed The X Of Ellen
Wit; Thomas Nock / Alice Golding X
Her father was James

Quite clearly James not John on RF evidence but needs further investigation to find an Emma with father James ( Bricklayer)

I can't see a James Bradley, bricklayer anywhere.

I will add what we have and then it may become clearer that it should be John not James .
Witnesses at some of marriages appear to link
Will come back tomorrow as rugby meeting to go to

Jimmy wrote:WILLIAMS, EMMA PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in ASTON UNION Volume 16 Page 156.

WILLIAMS, JOSEPH PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 285.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 17 Sep 1838.
Thomas WILLIAMS. full age. Bachelor. Dudley. Anvil smith. John WILLIAMS. Anvil smith.
Mary Ann PARKES. full age. Spinster. Nailor. Rowley Regis. Thomas PARKES. Nailor.
Witness 1 Joseph MARSH?
Witness 2 Maris CLIFT.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield.
Credit Jonathan Maxfield.
File line number 203.

Thomas Williams on BCC,

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