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George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:51 am
by Northern Lass
CAn anyone find George Tromans born I think RRegis
before his marriage in Oct 1891
father on marriage is Joseph FOSTER
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... di=2085854

on 1911 I think he is a George Foster Tromans

can anyone find him on Census from 1871 onwards
and
any birth etc etc pls

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:39 pm
by mumbles
Nl I have Census for George Foster Tromans from 1871 to 1911
and his father Joseph Foster who was born 1845 not 1830
Also can connect to Joseph Father who was George Foster born 1792
George Foster born 1792 may connect to Fosters already on BCC

I can add Census records here first

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:50 pm
by mumbles
1901 Census 51 Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George F. Tromans Head 38 Sett Maker in Granite Quarry
Alice F. Tromans wife 34 born Barrow in Furness Lancs.
Joseph H. Tromans son 11
Harry F. Tromans son 8
William F. Tromans son 6
Arthur F. Tromans son 4
Sarah Jane Tromans dau 2
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1911 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George Foster Tromans Head 38 Sett Maker in Granite Company Rowley
Alice Tromans wife 45 born Barrow in Furness Lancs.
Married 20 years ,5 children,5 living
Joseph Tromans son 22 Stone Breaking Granite Quarry
Harry Tromans son 18 Galvernising Labourer Tube Works
William Tromans son 16 Labourer Granite Quarry
Arthur Tromans son 14 Pin Carrier Nut & Bolt Works
Sarah Tromans dau 12 At School
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Note Alice Tromans was Still living in Rowley Village as a Widow in 1939 born 21/6/1867

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:09 pm
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Nl I have Census for George Foster Tromans from 1871 to 1911
and his father Joseph Foster who was born 1845 not 1830
Also can connect to Joseph Father who was George Foster born 1792
George Foster born 1792 may connect to Fosters already on BCC

I can add Census records here first


Hi Mumbles can you post the census from 1871 you have and up to 1901 I couldn't see George with a JOseph Foster on ancestry.

I would like to see which one you found if you have time to post.

How did you find him?
All I could find was a Joseph Tromans and a Hannah and it didn't seem right one.

The marriage I have put in Joseph Fosters notes is a possible only
doesn't feel like the correct one.

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:13 pm
by mumbles
1871 Census Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Foster Head 26 Rivet Maker
Harriett Foster wife 26 Nail Maker
George Foster son 8 Scholar
Henry Foster son 11 mths.
James Tromans boarder 36 Nail Maker
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census 89 The Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Foster Head 35 Rivet Maker
Harriett Foster wife 36 Nail Maker
George Foster son 18 Scholar
Richard Foster son 8 Scholar
Edward Foster son 6
John Foster son 3
Harry Foster son 9mths.
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

1891 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Foster Head 45 Rivet Maker
Harriett Foster wife 46 Nail Maker
George Foster son 28 Quarrierman
Richard Foster son 18 Quarrierman
Edward Foster son 16
John Foster son 13 Quarry Labourer
Harry Foster son 10
Mary J. Foster dau 7
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

1901 Census 83 Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Foster Head 55 Rivet Maker
Harriett Foster wife 56
Richard Foster son 28 Labourer in Stone Quarry
Edward Foster son 26 Labourer in Stone Quarry
John Foster son 23 Sett Maker
Harry Foster son 20 Shoemaker
Mary J. Foster dau 18
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

1911 Census Bell End Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Foster Head 65 Iron Rivet Maker
Harriett Foster wife 66
44 Years married,8 children,5 living
Horace Hadley son.in.law 27 Bricklayer Builders
Mary Jane Hadley dau 28
Married 4 years,3 children,2 living
Lily Hadley grd.dau 1
Sarah Jane Hadley grd.dau 4mths.
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:18 pm
by mumbles
Joseph Foster born 1845 is already on BCC
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =667555537

I think his father George Foster married a Mary Rose as children registered as Rose

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:19 pm
by Northern Lass
I don't think that is him..do you think it is him?

He is a quarryman in 1891 but on marriage is a sett maker

and father is a stud maker not a rivetmaker...

Blackheath St Paul. Marriage date 10 Oct 1891.
George TROMANS. 28. bachelor. Blackheath. sett maker. Joseph Foster. Stud maker.
Alice BASTABLE. 25. spinster. Blackheath. James BASTABLE. bricklayer.
Witness George PARKES.
Witness Eliza PARKES.

I really don't know....anymore proof that we can find?

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:21 pm
by Northern Lass
Address is good...rowley village
and
they seem to work in a quarry ie George and father Josephs other sons work in a quarry...

1901 Census 51 Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
George F. Tromans Head 38 Sett Maker in Granite Quarry
Alice F. Tromans wife 34 born Barrow in Furness Lancs.
Joseph H. Tromans son 11
Harry F. Tromans son 8
William F. Tromans son 6
Arthur F. Tromans son 4
Sarah Jane Tromans dau 2
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:23 pm
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Joseph Foster born 1845 is already on BCC
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =667555537

I think his father George Foster married a Mary Rose as children registered as Rose


If this is the correct line it would be great to connect up.

so do we think George is born as a Tromans...in abt 1863?

any baptism?

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:51 pm
by mumbles
Sett Makers worked in Quarry making door or window lintels or kerb stones and Rivet Makers were often called Stud makers

George Foster born 1792
married twice as children born before 1833 were by different mother
Marriage 26/5/1833 Dudley Worcs. George Foster Widower and Mary Rose single

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:02 pm
by mumbles
FOSTER Joseph TROWMANS Harriet Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/208 1866

George was born in 1863 out of wedlock and is registered as no mother on GRO
Rest of children are registered as mother Tromans

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:44 pm
by mumbles
This looks like Harriett Trowmans family on BCC
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =231543515

Note on bcc that Marriage of Henry Tromans to Mary Unknown may be to a Mary Smith

I have checked children and all registered with mother Smith after David born 1849

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:50 am
by Northern Lass
Right let me sticky this...I can't get round to this for a good few days
so mumbles if you fancy connecting up where necess. and filling in all details ..if you time
that would be brill.

:grin:

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:59 am
by mumbles
Posted to confirm but added all rest
FOSTER Joseph TROWMANS Harriet Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/208 1866

Re: George Tromans -b 1862/3 father Joseph Foster

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:45 am
by mumbles
Look up by RF
2 Apr 1866 St.Thomas Dudley
Joseph FOSTER 21 B Rivet Maker Dudley Father George Foster Hoop Maker
Harriet TROWMANS 22 S Dudley Father Henry Trowmans Rivet Maker
After Banns Joseph Signed The X Of Harriet
Wit; Martha Trowmans X / Jethro Sidaway
This confirms connection and I have added