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*Arc * -Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:43 am
by mumbles
Here is one for Willetts researchers to follow.
It is nothing to do with my Parsons line but when photocopying a Marriage cert. for Margaret Parsons and Richard Round I copied next entry which shows:
22/10/1860 Thomas Hackett Full age Bach. Chain Maker Dudley Father William Hackett Nailer
Matilda Willetts Full age Spinster Dudley father Thomas Williams Nailer
The Parish Church Dudley Worcs.
Witnesses :- John Clarke , Jane ? Smith
It is unusual as father is shown as Williams and daughter is Willetts and a spinster

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:16 pm
by linell
Hi Mumbles we looked this one up before, sure it was a spelling mistake and Thomas was Willetts not Williams, this is all in the archives somewhere :?: Best Wishes Linell.

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:17 pm
by peterd
poss census

1881 32 Halesowen Rd Rowley Regis, Stafford

Thomas HACKETT 43 Old Hill, Stafford, Chain Maker
Matilda HACKETT 41 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker Wife
William HACKETT 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Joseph HACKETT 15 Old Hill, Stafford, Chain Maker
Silvia HACKETT 13 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe HACKETT 11 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
John HACKETT 9 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Alice HACKETT 6 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah HACKETT 4 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
William HACKETT Lodger 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Eliza HACKETT Lodgers Wife 22 Old Hill, Stafford, Nailer

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:21 pm
by peterd
here the link your right linell he down as willetts on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=23574424

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:26 pm
by peterd
poss marriage i stick it on for look up

HACKETT William ROUND Eliza 1880 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/007/187

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:28 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Here is one for Willetts researchers to follow.
It is nothing to do with my Parsons line but when photocopying a Marriage cert. for Margaret Parsons and Richard Round I copied next entry which shows:
22/10/1860 Thomas Hackett Full age Bach. Chain Maker Dudley Father William Hackett Nailer
Matilda Willetts Full age Spinster Dudley father Thomas Williams Nailer
The Parish Church Dudley Worcs.
Witnesses :- John Clarke , Jane ? Smith
It is unusual as father is shown as Williams and daughter is Willetts and a spinster


I have added the marriage doc and father to BCC
so that is more info

wonder if that William Hackett is on already
I have estimated this one abt 1815
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =680215627

but there is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =680215627

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:30 am
by Northern Lass
Thomas is b abt 1839 and marries 1860

so can we find Thomas and father William Hackett on census prior to marriage in 1860 to see when his
father is born and where please
also mothers name

and a bapt?

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:46 pm
by linell
Think this is him in 1861 Hymns Hill RR:-

THOMAS HACKETT Head 22 yrs
MATILDA HACKETT Wife 21 yrs
WILLIAM HACKETT Son 5 mths

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:59 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Lin

could do with him in 1851 with father William :?

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:17 am
by FarSide
Poss
1851
6
Old hill, Rowley
William Hackett 34 - Widow - Nailmaker
Thomas Hackett 13 - Nailmaker
Sarah A Hackett 9
Ambrose Hackett 5
William Hackett 3
John Smith 17 - Lodger - Nailmaker - b Dudley
others b Rowley

Witnesses :- John Clarke , Jane ? Smith


next door
at # 5
Joseph Hackett 29 - Nailmaker
Ann Hackett 31 - Nailmaker - b Oldswinford
Joseph Hackett 4
Daniel Hackett 11 Mo

at # 4
Benjamin Hackett 73 - Widow - Pauper nailmaker
Thomas Hackett 27 - Nailmaker
Pheobe Hackett 24 - Nailmaker - b Dudley
Mary Ann Hackett 4
Hannah Hackett 2
Prudence Hackett 1 Mo
Elizabeth Hackett 11 - Lodger - Nailmaker
all others b Rowley

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:17 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks FS
that looks good and esp with that John Smith

where do we go from here
do I look at the original entry at archives see if it is John Smith

Any clues on later census with this Thomas and Matilda any inlaws living with them
that would be helpful
1891 -1901- 1911

:?

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:04 pm
by FarSide
1891
32 Halesowen Road, Rowley
Thomas Hackett 52 - Chainmaker
Matilda Hackett 51
John Hackett 19 - Chainmaker
Alice Hackett 16 - Chainmaker
Sarah Hackett 14 - Chainmaker
Eliza Hackett 9
all b Rowley

1901
52 Halesowen Road, Rowley
Thomas Hackett 63 - Chainmaker
Matilda Hackett 61
Eliza Hackett 19 - Chainmaker
Phoebe Shaw 31 -daug - marr - Chainmaker
Annie Shaw 9 - granddaug
all b Old hill

1889
SHAW Joseph HACKETT Phoebe Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/335

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:47 am
by Northern Lass
hmmm no clues really there are there?

So what we doing with this one?

flagging to archive
going to add that marriage want to look if it says John or Jane on originals if no use under the magnfier
I think that is the family with that John Smith but with the name Hackett have to be so sure

So archived pending look up

Re: Update...Look up done! -Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:48 pm
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Here is one for Willetts researchers to follow.
It is nothing to do with my Parsons line but when photocopying a Marriage cert. for Margaret Parsons and Richard Round I copied next entry which shows:
22/10/1860 Thomas Hackett Full age Bach. Chain Maker Dudley Father William Hackett Nailer
Matilda Willetts Full age Spinster Dudley father Thomas Williams Nailer
The Parish Church Dudley Worcs.
Witnesses :- John Clarke , Jane ? Smith
It is unusual as father is shown as Williams and daughter is Willetts and a spinster


Ok done the look up to clarify that signature
it is an Ann Smith

it says the mark of ann Smith

so not sure where that gets us

:?

Re: Hackett/Willetts/Williams

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:22 pm
by peterd
peterd wrote:poss census

1881 32 Halesowen Rd Rowley Regis, Stafford

Thomas HACKETT 43 Old Hill, Stafford, Chain Maker
Matilda HACKETT 41 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker Wife
William HACKETT 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Joseph HACKETT 15 Old Hill, Stafford, Chain Maker
Silvia HACKETT 13 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe HACKETT 11 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
John HACKETT 9 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Alice HACKETT 6 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah HACKETT 4 Old Hill, Stafford, Scholar
William HACKETT Lodger 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Eliza HACKETT Lodgers Wife 22 Old Hill, Stafford, Nailer


poss marriage i stick it on for look up

HACKETT William ROUND Eliza 1880 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/007/187



Hackett/Willetts/ Williams thread

29 Feb 1880 St Andrews Dudley
William Hackett- 19- bach-chainmaker- Old Hill- Thomas Hackett- deceased- chainmaker
Eliza Round- 20- spinster- Old Hill - deceased( no father was on)
banns
X both
Wit- X Nancy Stevens/ X Ellen Danks



so anybody any idea who this william is with father thomas (cousin of thomas in census had a father william and his brother was thomas father of lodger thomas. it seem to be the only logic answer unless he was a striaght lodger no relation ?)