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but cannot find Ann Clarke and her two sons Thomas and William in 1881 before her marriage to Thomas Groves in 1882

1881 Census 14 Parsonage Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Emmanuel Fenn Head 34 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Fenn wife 35 born Small Heath Worcs.
Alfred Fenn son 11
Harriett Fenn dau 8
Elizabeth Fenn dau 5
Annie Fenn dau 3
Thomas Groves brother.in.law 32 Coal Miner born Small Heath Worcs.
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

Note Thomas is living with Sister Elizabeth and her husband and not with Ann Clarke and her sons Thomas and William. He married Ann Clarke in 1882 and sons took Groves surname in 1901 and 1911


1891 Census 21 Hollyhedge Road West Bromwich Staffs.
Thomas Groves Head 43 Coal Miner born Yardley Warks.
Ann Groves wife 46
Thomas Clarke son 13 Hode Caster
William Clarke son 11 Scholar
Charles Groves son 8 Scholar
Emma Groves dau 4
Henry Groves son 2
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

1901 Census 21 Hollyhedge Road West Bromwich Staffs.
Thomas Groves Head 53 Coal Miner Hewer born N.K. Warks.
Anne Groves wife 54
Thomas Groves son 23 General Labourer
William Groves son 21 Bricklayers Labourer
Charles Groves son 18 Gardener (not Domestic)
Harry Groves son 12
Alfred Groves son 9
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

Freereg Marriage All Saints West Bromwich Staffs. 2/8/1882
Thomas Groves bach 32 Miner West Bromwich father William Groves Groom
Ann Clarke sp. father Henry Clarke Miner
Witnesses William Harrold & Elizabeth Henn

I can't see their births on the gro site can anyone find them?

where did you get thomas dob of 24 dec 1877 from mumbles?

any baptisms anywhere?

1881. 21 Hollyhedge Rd, West Bromwich.
Ann Clark 33. Head. Unmarried. General servant.
Thomas Clark 4. Son.
William Clark 1. Son.

All born West Bromwich.

CLARK, THOMAS     BLANK.
GRO Reference: 1877  M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 877.

CLARKE, WILLIAM     BLANK.
GRO Reference: 1879  D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 781.

Jimmy wrote:1881. 21 Hollyhedge Rd, West Bromwich.
Ann Clark 33. Head. Unmarried. General servant.
Thomas Clark 4. Son.
William Clark 1. Son.

All born West Bromwich.

same house,

1881. 21 Hollyhedge Rd, West Bromwich.
Charles Phillips 39. Head. Labourer For Commissioners. Tamworth.
Emma Phillips 31. West Bromwich.

Ancestry.
Charles Phillips. 25. Bachelor. Carter. Thomas Phillips. Labourer.
Emma Clarke. 20. Spinster. Henry Clarke. Labourer.

Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1868.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Matthias, Warwickshire.

Date of birth for Thomas is from 1939 Register
Thanks for rest Jimmy

FreeReg,

Foleshill St Laurence.
Marriage date 16 May 1825.
William CLARK. Bachelor. Groom abode Stoke WAR.
Anne RUSHEN. Spinster. Foleshill.
Witness
Edward CLARK.
Witness
Mary CLARK.

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