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Have done a look up this is for the other James Cutler we found
not the one that married Louisa Austin

this one married a Phebe Janette/a Billingham
(and it would be great to link her and her father Eli into the Billingham line
but I am opening a topic on that to keep it all seperate..so please dont add her detail here)

James' father is a James carpenter

here is the marriage

18 July 1871 Holy Trinity Smethwick
James Cutler-32- widower- butcher- Smethwick- James Cutler- carpenter
Phebe Janette Billingham- 35- spinster- smethwick- Eli Billingham- blacksmith
both signed
Wit - James Reynolds/ Ellen Reynolds

we do have a James Cutler on b abt 1815 could this be the father?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

can we find the census for that one above with son Joseph
does he have a James that fits
is James snr a carpenter?

son James is born about 1839
widower
and on the 1881 we found this

1881 High St Grocers Shop Kingswinford
James Cutler age 41 Born Brockmoor Forge staffordshire
Matilia Cutler age 45 wife Born Wordsley
Eli Billingham age 70 Lodger
Frederick Cutler age 17 Lodger son
Joseph Cutler age 16 Lodger son
Edith Cutler age 8 Lodger Daughter

and 1891...
1891 theres a James Cutler with wife Janetta daughter Edith age 17 and Eli Billingham age 81 living in Quarry Bank

now why is his wife Matilda in 1881 ...he married 1871....spelling mistake?
must be esp as her father is there in 1881
and other details are wrong ie lodgers sons!

so who did James marry prev
who is mother to older lads

Poss
1871
32
Union Street, Rowley
James Cuttler 32 - Widow - General labourer - b Dudley
Frederick Cuttler 7
Joseph Cuttler 6
others b Rowley

on same page
28
Joseph Billingham 64 - Chain manufacturer - b Kingswinford
Louisa Billingham 62 - b Kingswinford
Sarah Stover 17 - servant - b Kingswinford

29
Joseph Billingham 38 - Chainmaker - b Kingswinford
Phebe Billingham 37 - b Kingswinford
Gideon Billingham 7 - b Gainsborough Lancs
Kitty Billingham 4
Elizabeth Billingham 2
others b Rowley

Could that be his wife to be then?
is she a Billingham and married a billingham
anyone see a marriage for her and Joseph?

West Midlands Marriage 1864.

BILLINGHAM Joseph, WESTWOOD Louisa, Dudley Register Office, Dudley Register Office. DRO/004/130.

thanks jimmy
just adding some of this to BCC

could do with this James Cutlers first marriage

West Midlands Marriage 1857.
CUTLER James, BILLINGHAM Betsey, West Bromwich, All Saints, Sandwell Register Office, 22/7/470.

West Midlands Marriage 1861.
CUTLER James, BILLINGHAM Harriett, Smethwick, Holy Trinity, Sandwell Register Office, 1/1/357.

Oh heck!
don't fancy looking up all those


think I have found James and his father at Causey? Green Warley Wigan worcs
in 51 and 61 he is down as a sawyer
but not sure

Ok I am completed on this one now
so will archive we have some info and can run later with it
Unless otherwise advised will archive in 24 hrs