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PLEASE ARCHIVE - George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:54 am
by mallosa
copied over from a previous thread...
mumbles wrote:1939 Register for 3 and 4 Bank Street Rowley Regis Staffs.
No.3
George Baker 26/9/1885 Edge Coal Grinder
Elizabeth Baker 16/12/1883
Harry Baker 12/4/1874 ? Railway Porter
No. 4
Joseph Brettell 29/9/1913 Pharmacist Manager
Hannah Brettell 26/4/1910
75 Trejon Road Rowley Regis Staffs.
Frank Baker 22/11/1888 Foreman Lifting Appliances ( also Corporal St. John Ambulance Grade 1 Anti Gas )
Emma Baker 7/5/1888
Cissie Baker ( Gregory) 23/7/1919
Possible Marriages :-
BAKER Frank GRAINGER Emma Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/4/365 1907
BAKER George E GREEN Elizabeth Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/003/372 1912
BAKER Cissie GREGORY Joseph Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/8/81 1940
BRETTLE Joseph E WILLETTS Hannah Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/7/388 1937
Note cannot post all info on 1939 Register onto bcc
I'm not convinced that we have the correct marriage for George, could it be the one above?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =630172258
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:11 am
by rockyfowler
The one in red?
That one has David Baker as father
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:54 am
by Jimmy
HILL, LIZZIE BAYNHAM.
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 9.
HILL, LIZZIE HILL.
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 78.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:45 am
by Jimmy
Death reg,
Looks like the one born Dec qtr died.
HILL, LIZZIE. age 4 .
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 43.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:11 am
by Mabel
In 9101 there was another Lizzie Hill in service born Netherton Cole street. Grandma was always called Lizzie. She definitely came from Netherton, Darby End and was definitely married in Netherton. The family on my tree born reddallhi ld Hill on census. That's what bothers me. Marriage address Northfield Rd that's also in Netherton. In 1891 c there is a Lizzie Hill age 9 living with her cousin Benjamin Weusr? and Sarah Weusr and sister Sarah age 13 born Netherton.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:35 am
by Jimmy
There was only 2 Lizzie Hills born about that time,
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1886
HILL Lizzie. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/90/50.
HILL Lizzie. Sedgley. Dudley Register Office. SEG/148/119.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:48 am
by Jimmy
I see from the marriage cert that her father was a iron worker, could it be that she was born Elizabeth, then shortened her name to lizzie later in life,
1891. Northfield Road, Dudley.
John Hill 42. Mill furnace man. Quarry Bank.
Esther Hill 40.
John Hill 19.
Esther Hill 12.
Harry Hill 8.
Elizabeth Hill 4.
Azar Hill 1.
All others born Netherton.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:50 am
by Jimmy
HILL, ELIZABETH GREAVES.
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 113.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:01 am
by Jimmy
I think this is the Elizabeth,
1901,
Lizzie Hill Age: 14.
Estimated birth year: abt 1887.
Relation to Head:
Servant.
Gender:
Female.
Birth Place:
Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish:
Dudley
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:04 am
by mallosa
That's exactly what I was thinking Jimmy, was she christened Elizabeth
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:08 am
by Jimmy
1901. 40 Northfield Road. Dudley.
John Hill 50.
Esther Hill 50.
Harry Hill 18. son.
Josiah Knight 23. son in law.
Esther Knight 23. dau.
Josiah Knight 9 Days. grandson.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:11 am
by rockyfowler
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HILL, ELIZABETH GREAVES Order
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 113
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:24 am
by rockyfowler
25 Dec 1867 St Thomas Dudley
John HILL 19 B Labourer Dudley Father Jo (Crossed Out) Blank
Esther GREAVES 17 S Dudley Father Henry Greaves Sythe Grinder
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Read X/ Eliza Read X
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:34 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:I see from the marriage cert that her father was a iron worker, could it be that she was born Elizabeth, then shortened her name to lizzie later in life,
1891. Northfield Road, Dudley.
John Hill 42. Mill furnace man. Quarry Bank.
Esther Hill 40.
John Hill 19.
Esther Hill 12.
Harry Hill 8.
Elizabeth Hill 4.
Azar Hill 1.
All others born Netherton.
Could this Harry be the illusive Harry.
Re: George Baker and wife Lizzie (Hill?)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:06 pm
by Jimmy
this must be Harry,
HILL, HENRY GREAVES .
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 117.