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ARC TBC Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 pm
by Fatman
This post relates to http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=398698

Samuel is my 4x Great Grandfather.
Previously on this forum, we deciphered his second marriage to Jane Betts - which lists his father as Joseph Hall.

But i cant find anything else to find out how to go any further with Joseph.

Can anyone help or suggest a way to research further?
I have some time off in a few weeks too, so if a real life visit to an archive would help, then I would be happy to try that and contribute back to Black Country Connections

Thanks
Andrew

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:01 pm
by Jimmy
There is this,

FreeReg,

Staffordshire.
Place (link for place information) West Bromwich.
Church name All Saints.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 856.
Baptism date 29 Dec 1816.
Person forename Samuel
Person abode Over End.
Father forename Joseph
Father surname HALL.
Father occupation Engine Work.
Mother forename Ann.

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:12 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Spon Lane, West Bromwich.
Joseph Hall 48. Engine Fitter.
Ann Hall 48.
Ann Hall 19.
Jane Hall 15.
Joseph Hall 13.
Maryann Hall 11.

All born in county.

1851. Spon Lane, West Bromwich.
Joseph Hall 56.
Ann Hall 57.
Mary Ann Hall 21.
Harriet Hall 17.

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:24 pm
by Jimmy
Hall Joseph Letters of administration of Joseph Hall late of West Bromwich in the county of Staffordshire. Machine fitter deceased who died 19 December 1864 at West Bromwich aforesaid were granted at Lichfield to Ann Hall of West Bromwich aforesaid widow the relict of the said deceased she having been first sworn.

Effects under £500.

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:26 pm
by Jimmy
FreeReg,
Staffordshire.
Place (link for place information) West Bromwich.
Church name Christ Church.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 557.
Burial date 25 Dec 1864.
Person age 71.
Burial person forename Joseph
Burial person surname HALL.
Burial person abode Spon Lane.

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:18 pm
by Fatman
Hi Jimmy

Thanks for these. Ive investigated this before and probably came to the same conclusion that he is the father - although theres no absolute connection to prove theyre connected.

I got hold of the All Saints records to try and show more but there are no more obvious connections to validate this

Think this may be the end of the line :(

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:18 am
by Northern Lass
HI Andrew welcome back

would you like me to add your username in notes on Bcc to Samuel Hall

just having a look at this thread now :wink:

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:35 am
by Northern Lass
On 1st marriage wit is a Robert Hall

adding marriage to Bcc now

is he a brother?

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:21 am
by Northern Lass
Where is Samuel in 1881 and other census
or wife?

is there a death for him?

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:23 am
by gardener
That looks more like Wall to me :?

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:26 am
by gardener
How about working on the Spon Lane Joseph... there seem to be quite a few kids to trace. Some had sons named Samuel. It might be worth seeing who their marriage witnesses were.

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:30 am
by Fatman
Northern Lass wrote:HI Andrew welcome back

would you like me to add your username in notes on Bcc to Samuel Hall

just having a look at this thread now :wink:


Hiya, yes please.

No obvious robert in this collection: https://familysearch.org/search/collect ... id=1473014

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:31 am
by Fatman
gardener wrote:How about working on the Spon Lane Joseph... there seem to be quite a few kids to trace. Some had sons named Samuel. It might be worth seeing who their marriage witnesses were.


Youre right, there are a lot of Halls who live in Spon Lane

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:32 am
by Northern Lass
1881 Jane is widow
adding info now on Bcc.

Jane Hall 48
James Hall 21
George Hall 18
William Hall 18
Frederick Hall 13

Re: Father of Samuel Hall - b 1818

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:46 am
by Fatman
I think I have ordered every Samuel Hall death certificate between 1871 and 1881 from West Bromwich district

Andrew