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Marriage looked up by RF
Hagley St John The Baptist
8 Oct 1884
William THOMAS F B Gardener Handsworth Father Charles Thomas Labourer
Elizabeth CRUMPTON F S Dress Maker Hagley Father George Crumpton Labourer
Wit; George Crumpton X / Mary Ann Thomas

Found Crumpton family and added to bcc
William Thomas probably born 1852 to 1859 and found a Charles with son William but Charles was Chain Maker and William was still single in 1891 so wrong one
Mary Ann Thomas was witness in marriage above so might help to find right Thomas family

There is this one,

1871. Blakedown.
Charles Thomas 42. Ag lab.Bramford, Herefordshire
Sarah Thomas 40. Caverder, Warwickshire.
William Thomas 17. Labourer. Caverder, Warwickshire.
Lousia Thomas 15.
Charles Thomas 12. Hagley.
Mary A Thomas 10. Hagley.
Walter T Thomas 7. Hagley.
Henry Thomas 5. Hagley.
Edwin Thomas 2. Hagley.
George Lane 35.
Amelia Lane 31.
Jane Lane 12.
Annie A Lane 11 Months.

1861. Stakenbridge, Hagley.
Charles Thomas 33. Bishops Frome, Herefordshire.
Sarah A Thomas 31. Claverdon, Worcestershire.
William Thomas 7. Claverdon, Worcestershire.
Louisa Thomas 5. Claverdon, Worcestershire.
Charles Thomas 2. Hagley.
Mary A Thomas 3/12. Hagley.

That might be right one as Crumpton Family have connections to Blakedown and Kidderminster

I thought because the marriage was in Hagley and they lived in the area it might be the right one.

1881 Census Stakenbridge Hagley Bromsgrove Worcs.
Charles Thomas Head 53 Labourer born Bishops Frome Worcs.
Sarah Ann Thomas wife 50 born Claverdon Worcs.
Mary Ann Thomas dau 20 Cook
Walter Thomas son 17 Farm Servant
Edwin Thiomas son 12 Scholar
Fanny E. Thomas dau 9 Scholar
Arthur Thomas son 7 Scholar
Rest born Stakenbridge Worcs.

1891 Census Blakedown Bromsgrove Worcs.
Charles Thomas Head 63 Labourer born Bishops Frome Worcs.
Sarah Thomas wife 60 born Claverdon Worcs.
Fanny Thomas dau 19 Domestic Servant born Hagley Worcs.

So where is William Thomas in 1881 before he marries Elizabeth Crumpton ?

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1881. 12 Church Street, West Bromwich.
John Wills, head, 53, Cab proprietor,
Ann, wife, 52,
Joseph, son, 22, Cab proprietor,
William Thomas, Lodger, 26, Groom and Gardener, Liddington, Warwickshire
All born Northamptonshire

Could be Right one as Claverdon Warwickshire is near Stratford and Luddington is also near Stratford

are you still working on this mumbles?

do you need more on it?
or can it be arc?

Have not added yet NL as too busy will add sometime next week

All added NL
and it was right William Thomas as brothers Charles and Walter also ended up as Gardeners in Handsworth West Bromwich