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PLEASE ARCHIVE - John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:02 am
by mallosa
1911: 27 Wesley Street, Oldbury
Joseph Matthews 31 Head Carter Corn Merchant
Mary Matthews 31 Wife married 11 Yrs - children 4/4/0
Florrie Matthews 11 Dau
Elizabeth Matthews 9 Dau
Lily Matthews 6 Dau
Joseph Matthews 4 Son
John Wain 54 Uncle Single Lamplighter Gas Works
(all born Oldbury)

Is he this one
- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=390602

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:59 am
by mallosa
1891: 3 Dudley Road, Oldbury
Samuel Evans 56 Head Coal Miner West Bromwich
Sarah Evans 57 Wife
Samuel Evans 25 Son S Gen Lab
Lizzie Evans 19 Dau S Apprentice Dressmaker
Mark Evans 17 Son S Striker
Mary Preston 74 Aunt Wid
John Wain 33 Lodger S Lamplighter
(others born Oldbury)

1881: Brades Row, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Sam Evans 47 Coal Miner West Bromwich, Staffs
Sarah Evans 48
William Evans 29 Son unm Lab in Coal Pit
John Evans 21 Son unm Iron Worker
Sam Evans 16 Son Iron Worker
Joseph Evans 14 Son
Elizabeth Evans 10 Dau
Mark Evans 7 Son
John Waine 24 Boarder unm Iron Worker
(others born Oldbury)

1871: 15 Albert Street, Oldbury
Samuel Evans 36 Head Coal Miner Staffordshire
Sarah Evans 39 Wife
William Briand (BRIANT) 17 Son Gen Lab
Luke Briant 10 Son Lab
John Eman (EVANS) 10 Son
Samuel Eman (EVANS) 5 Son
Mary Evans 1 Dau
John Adams 18 Visitor Lab
Thomas Wain 42 Lodger Coal Miner
John Wain 14 Son Lab

(others born Oldbury)

poss
Death Jun 1864
Waine Emma W. Bromwich 6b 392

1861: Albert Street, Oldbury
Thomas Waine 32 Head Coal Miner Oldbury
Emma Waine 29 Wife Shropshire
John Waine 4 Son Oldbury

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:06 am
by mallosa
Can't see him in 1901 :?

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:26 am
by gardener
1901
Oldbury
Joseph Mathews 20 corn merchant (carter)
Mary Mathews 20
Florrie Mathews 8/12
John Waire 24 lamplighter [says Wair on image]

Think it must be him, despite the age.

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:05 pm
by mallosa
Yes that does look like him gardener thankyou!

In fact I've found him with his parents on BCC here in 1861 - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=390633

He hasn't been added so will do that now :grin:

Connected up

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:33 pm
by mallosa
gardener wrote:1901
Oldbury
Joseph Mathews 20 corn merchant (carter)
Mary Mathews 20
Florrie Mathews 8/12
John Waire 24 lamplighter [says Wair on image]

Think it must be him, despite the age.


poss
Marriage 1900
MATTHEWS Joseph WILKINS Mary Oldbury, St James Sandwell Register Office 14/1/72

Requested a look up

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:14 am
by mallosa
Courtesy of Rockyfowler...

Marriage 15 Apr 1900 St James, Oldbury
Joseph MATTHEWS 19 B Labourer Langley Green Father Joseph Matthews Labourer
Mary WILKINS 19 S Langley Green Father Isaac Wilkins Labourer
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; William James / Sarah Dunwood

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:40 am
by mallosa
1891: Union Street, Oldbury
Joseph Matthews 38 Head Lab at Iron Works
Henry [FANNY] Matthews 41 Wife
Jane Matthews 14 Dau
William Matthews 12 Son
Joseph Matthews 10 Son
Thomas Matthews 5 Son
Abraham Matthews 3 Son
(all born Oldbury)

1881: Union Street, Oldbury
Joseph Matthews 28 Laborer In Iron Works
Fanny Matthews 23 Dudley, Worc
Anne [JANE] Matthews 4 Dau
William Matthews 2 Son
Joseph Matthews 5 wks Son
(others born Oldbury)

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter)

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:45 am
by mallosa
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=390788

ancestry
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Joseph Matthews
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1875
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Spouse: Fanny Lloyd
FHL Film Number: 378778, 378779, 378780, 378781, 378782, 378783, 378784, 378785

Marriage 1875
MATTHEWS Joseph LLOYD Fanny Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/033/80

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter) - Mally adding

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:12 pm
by mallosa
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1911: Union Workhouse, 88 Hallam Street, West Bromwich
Fanny Mathews [Fanny Matthews] 62 Inmate Married born West Bromwich, Staffs

If this is the same one, where is her husband Joseph?

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter) - Mally adding

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:15 pm
by mallosa
Ah...married 15 yrs - children 4/3/1 so not the same one!

Re: John Wain (Lamplighter) - Mally adding

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:38 pm
by mallosa
Requested a couple of look ups which hopefully will enable me see how John Wain connects to Josephs father

so can be archived pending please :grin: