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ARC TBC.William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:58 pm
by Waltzer7
I currently have Delilah Williams' Grandfather, William Weaver (1775 - 1824) marrying Ruth Smith (1778 - April 1862 on 13 January 1798 at Halesowen.

William Weaver born est. 1775 and died in 1824, was buried on 3rd December 1824 at Rowley Regis.

Ruth Smith born or baptised at St. Thomas, Dudley on 15 January 1778. Baptised at Pelsall, Staffs on 15 February 1778. Buried 18 May 1862 in Stafford co.

Daughter Sarah Weaver who was baptised on 7 January 1816 at St. John's, Halesowen. Second marriage to Thomas Williams on 2 January 1846 at St. Giles, Rowley Regis. Died?

Sarah's half-siblings were: -

Sarah Caroline Wood 1837 )_ Rowley Regis
George Wood 1840 )

full-siblings: -

Thomas Williams 1847
Meshac Williams 1853
Henry Williams 1854 - all above born at Rowley Regis
Paul Williams 1858 at Cradley

1841 Census at Four Ways, Cradley Heath - Ruth Weaver age 64, Mother
1851 Census at Cradley Heath - Ruth Weaver age 73, Widow
1861 Census at Corngreaves Road, Cradley Heath - Ruth Weaver age 80, Lodger

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:23 pm
by Waltzer7
Ruth Weaver

1841 Census
Name Ruth Weaver
Age 64
Estimated Birth Year abt 1777
Gender Female
Where born Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Rowley Regis
Hundred North Seisdon
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Dudley
Sub-registration district Rowley Regis
Piece 997
Book 5
Folio 9
Page number 11
Household Members
Name Age
Ruth Weaver 64

1851 Census
Name Ruth Weaver
Age 73
Estimated Birth Year abt 1778
Relation Mother
Gender Female
Where born Rowley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish Reddal Hill
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 10351
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Dudley
Sub-registration district Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel 1n
Household schedule number 23
Piece 2028
Folio 350
Page number 8
Household Members
Name Age
Fredrice Foxall 61
Ruth Weaver 73
Eliza Foxall 48
Martha Foxall 24
Ruth Foxall 19
James Foxall 11
John Foxall 9
Eliza Foxall 5
Ann Foxall 6 Mo

1861 Census
Name Ruth Weaver
Age 80
Estimated Birth Year 1781
Relation Lodger
Gender Female
Where born Cradley, Heath, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish Reddal Hill
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Dudley
Sub-registration district Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel 19
Household schedule number 137
Piece 2040
Folio 88
Page number 30
Household Members
Name Age
Charles Andrews
Fillis Andrews
Priscilla Andrews
Joseph Andrews
Ephram Andrews
Ruth Mary Andrews
Phebe Ann Andrews
Ruth Weaver

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:35 am
by Northern Lass
What is your query then?
and the bapt of Sarah seems not to be at St JOhns but on IGI says here
Sarah Weaver Christening:
7 January 1816
PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN, CRADLEY, WORCESTER, ENGLAND

father:
William Weaver
mother:
Ruth

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:03 pm
by Waltzer7
Northern Lass wrote:What is your query then?
and the bapt of Sarah seems not to be at St JOhns but on IGI says here
Sarah Weaver Christening:
7 January 1816
PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN, CRADLEY, WORCESTER, ENGLAND

father:
William Weaver
mother:
Ruth


Looking at the fact Ruth Smith born/baptised at St. Thomas, Dudley on 15 January 1778. Baptised at Pelsall, Staffs on 15 February 1778. Buried 18 May 1862 in Stafford co. Would it have been possible for Ruth being baptised at two different places a month apart or was she actually born at St.Thomas, Dudley on 15 January 1778 and baptised at Pelsall, Staffs a month later?

Thanks for the info on Sarah Weaver's christening having taken place at Park Lane Presbyterian. How and where could I access IGI?

Also I can't find records on Sarah Weaver's death.

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:12 pm
by rockyfowler
The Baptism was at St Giles Rowley Regis
Ruth Smith
England Births and Christenings
Name Ruth Smith
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Feb 1778
Christening Place ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name William Smith
Mother's Name Sarah
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5K7-1GB : 30 December 2014), Ruth Smith, 15 Feb 1778; citing ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 873,644, 96,891, 476,914.
No image available
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Indexing Project (Batch) Number P00990-1
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 0873644, 0096891, 476914

Ruth Smith
England Births and Christenings
Name Ruth Smith
Gender Female
Christening Date 1778
Christening Place PELSALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name William Smith
Mother's Name Hannah
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N61P-584 : 30 December 2014), Ruth Smith, 1778; citing Pelsall, Staffordshire, England, reference - 2:2NQWZNK; FHL microfilm 1,471,181.
No image available
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C03944-2
System Origin England-VR
GS Film number 1471181
Reference ID - 2:2NQWZNK

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:48 am
by Northern Lass
So I can add in Ruths possible bapt in notes on Bcc
will do that thanks rf.

Waltzer the igi info can be viewed here
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi

Dudley archives will have the entry on film I think available to view
so you can see a copy of the original entry.

Looks like Ruth was born Rowley Regis to me from census

was there anything else on Ruth you needed?

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:44 am
by Waltzer7
Many thanks and yes, I do use the Family Search, only just noticed the small IGI above the search boxes.

Re: William Weaver M Ruth Smith 13 Jan 1798

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:57 am
by Northern Lass
Flagging to arch if all done