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Marriage Looked up by RF
St. Thomas Dudley 25/12/1866
John JASPER 22 B Miner Dudley Father John Jasper Miner
Jane WHELDON 20 W Dudley Father William Flevren Carter (Deceased)
After Banns The X Of Both Wit; Emanuel Jasper X / Esther Jasper X
Note records show as Jane Wheldon or Flevren


1891 Census Corngreaves Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Jasper Head 45 Miner
Jane Jasper wife 45
Mary A. Hall mother.in.law 68 (wid) born Bridgnorth Shrops.
Rest born Quarry Bank Staffs.

A bit of a puzzle as marriage shows Jane as Wheldon and her father as William Flevren and her mother on Census is Mary A. Hall ?

Jane was a widow (the marriage entry has 'W', and it seems likely that her mother had remarried and was also a widow?

1861
Maughn St, Kingswinford
William Ferrer Snr 50 carter Eardisland, Herefordshire
Mary A Ferrer 39 Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Jane Ferrer 15 chainmaker Quarry Bank
Charlotte Ferrer 8 scholar Quarry Bank

1851
Quarry Bank
William Ferrer 40 a carter of coal Eardisland, Herefordshire
Mary Ann Ferrer 28 Bridgnorth
Jane Ferrer 4 Kingswinford
Honor Ferrer 1 Mo Kingswinford

Name: William Ferrer
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 Jan 1807
Baptism Place: Eardisland,Hereford,England
Father: John Ferrer
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 992148

William and Honor died
(From FreeReg)
Place Quarry Bank
Church name Christ Church
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1172
Burial date 11 Sep 1864
Person age 53
Burial person forename William
Burial person surname FERRER
Burial person abode Quarry Bank

Place Quarry Bank
Church name Christ Church
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 280
Burial date 20 Mar 1853
Person age 3
Burial person forename Honor
Burial person surname FERRER
Burial person abode Maughan Street

Not sure about this, there is a William Ferrer in the 1841 census, and perhaps his wife died

Place Brierley Hill
Church name St Michael
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 271
Burial date 04 Sep 1842
Person age 33
Burial person forename Elizabeth
Burial person surname FERRER
Burial person abode Quarry Bank

but they are living in Dudley and he is a butcher

1841
Bond St, Dudley
William Ferrer 35 butcher
Elizabeth Ferrer 33
William Ferrer 11
Ellen Ferrer 5
John Ferrer 7
Elizabeth Ferrer 2 [think she is here http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=384871 ]
Elizabeth Powell 13
all born out of county

must be them, as William Ferrer junr is easy to track

1851
Quarry Bank
George Tristram 38
Caroline Tristram 41
John Charles Tristram 8
George Wm Tristram 6
Saml Henry Tristram 2
William Symonds 27
William Ferrer 20 nephew Eardisland, Herefordshire [living with his mother's relatives)
Mary Ann Williams 13
Thomas Williams 10
Roland Briest 17
John Wall 23


1861
(next door to his father)
William Ferrer Jnr 30 carter Hereford, Hadland
Ellen Ferrer 24 Quarry Bank (and others below)
Betsy Ferrer 7
Edwin Ferrer 5
Ellen Ferresr 3

And what seems to be a marriage for William to Mary Ann, but rather late for the 1851 census? and still he is listed as a butcher so I am getting confused.

Place Brierley Hill
Church name St Michael
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 116
Marriage date 15 Oct 1860
Groom forename William
Groom surname FERRER
Groom age 49
Groom condition widower
Groom abode Brierley Hill
Groom occupation Butcher
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname WILDING
Bride age 36
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Brierley Hill
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname FERRER
Groom father occupation Skinner
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname WILDING
Bride father occupation Mill man
Witness Harden COOKSEY
Witness Caroline TRISTRAM
Register note Banns. Bride mark X

The Tristram lot are here http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=384871

I can't see a marriage for the widowed Mary Ann Ferrer though.

Thanks Gardener
I think this is Jane :-
Marriage 15/5/1864 St. Andrew Dudley
William Wilden bach Miner Netherton father Edward Wilden Puddler
Jane Wilden sp. ( no father and record shows born Illegitimate)
Witnesses John & Sarah Brooks

Marriage 29/2/1864 St. Andrew Dudley
John Brooks bach. Netherton Furnaceman father William Brooks Nailer
Sarah Weldon sp. Netherton father Edward Weldon Furnaceman
Witnesses William Weldon and Jane Fener

Edward Wheldon and William and Sarah are on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ver=384871

My thesis is that William Wilden died Dudley 1865 and Jane went on to marry John Jasper

Because she was illegitimate she put Fener and Wheldon and Flevren on various documents as she did not know

Your Ferrer looks right as close to Fener and Flevren

That looks OK then? just the Hall name to explain?

I also have looked for a marriage but not found one

Did you notice the Henry Hall in the nextdoor household in 1891? I tried to find him but could not.

So we have Mary ann Wilding
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =305862176

a widow after 1864...

yet on 1891 she is Mary A Hall...

1891 Census Corngreaves Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Jasper Head 45 Miner
Jane Jasper wife 45
Mary A. Hall mother.in.law 68 (wid) born Bridgnorth Shrops.
Rest born Quarry Bank Staffs.

and there is no marriage to be found?

also where is William Ferrers 1st marriage to Elizabeth Tristam?

Northern Lass wrote:also where is William Ferrers 1st marriage to Elizabeth Tristam?

There is this one,

Ancestry, image available,

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921.


William Ferrer.
Spouse: Elizabeth Tristram.
Record Type: Banns.
Event Date: 6 Apr 1827.
Parish: Christ Church, Southwark.
Borough: Southwark.
Register Type: Parish Register.

Do you want me to brickwall this mumbles?

are we looking for the Mary wilding marriage to a Hall?

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