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Emma Cutler b.1827 christened 16 September 1827 in Lapal,Worcestershire.
Parents Thomas and Elizabeth Cutler but then nothing until she marries in 1871 to William Ward.
Where was she in the intervening years?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =307946857

Don't you mean Emma Cutler Rob?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=384400

#Sch 59
1871: Chaple? Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Cuttler 64 Head Ag Lab Halesowen
Elizabeth Cuttler 69 Wife Halesowen
Ennio Cuttler 40 Dau Unm Cook Halesowen (EMMA)
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Richard Hodgett 24 Head Lodger Marr Clerk at iron Works Tipton
Sarah Hodgett 23 Wife Tipton

Thanks San. See!!! I told you those Cutlers give me an headache!!

Possible,

1841.
Emma Cutler.
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1827.
Gender: Female.
Civil Parish: Handworth With Soho.
Hundred: South Offlow.
County/Island: Staffordshire.
Country: England.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Sub-registration district: Handsworth.
Piece: 980.
Book: 3.
Folio: 17.
Page Number: 26.

Emma Cutler 14. F. S. not born in county.

Just moving around a bit?


1851
Bradford (?) House, Belbroughton
Thomas Parkes 56
Ann Parkes 53
Ellen Parkes 18
Thomas Parkes 23
Eliza Hinah 29
Emma Cutter 23 unm house servant Lutley Green, Worcs (says Cutler)
John Tolley 27
James Larry 18

1861
St Mary Abbott (parish), Kensington
Henry Washbourne 62
Harriette Washbourne 68
Caroline Baird 23
Clara Richards 33
Emma Cutler 32 unm house servant born Hagley, Worcs
Mary Ann Wickstead 28

Thats interesting Gardner.Emma Ward nee Cutler was born in Lutley,Halesowen.1911 living with Joseph Guest and Hannah Unknown ,who i believe is Hannah Higgins (waiting for a lookup)..................http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=384500

It seems to be a bit of a nightmare family

BCC has this already
1891 Bloomfield Street,Hawne,Halesowen
Emma Ward head 63 widow living on own means b.Halesowen
Hannah Higgins granddaug 15 servant b.Halesowen

and

1881 Bloomfield Street,Hawne, Halesowen
Wiliam Ward head 68 wooden hoop maker b.Knightwick,Worc's
Emma Ward wife 54
Elizabeth Ward daug 16
Elizabeth Higgins boarder 13
Lucy Higgins boarder 8
Thomas Cutler father in law 73 ag lab
All born Halesowen


and then they are here

1881
Bloomfield St, Hawn
Thomas Higgins 36 nail forger
Mary A. Higgins 34
Hannah Higgins 6 dau
all born Halesowen

1871
Hagley Road, Hasbury
Thomas Higgins 24
Mary Ann Higgins 23
Lizzie Higgins 4 dau
Jane Higgins 9 Months dau
all born Hasbury

1868 marriage
HIGGINS Thomas CUTTLER Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/026/358

So Emma's sister Mary Ann Cutler married Thomas Higgins. Thomas Higgins seems to have died in 1884, not sure about Mary Ann, but perhaps she died too if Hannah is down as Emma's grand daughter in 1891?

So is this mary ann cutler in 1851...but odd down as g.dau to joseph cutler
1851 Census, Halesowen, Worc.
Thomas Cutler Hd M M 46 Ag. Lab.
Elizabeth Cutler wife M F 51 Nailer
Elizabeth Cutler dau U F 13 Scholar
Mary Ann Cutler grand-dau F 2
All born Halesowen
(Trans as Cuttler)

do you think mary ann cutler is dau to emma cutler?
down as g.dau in 1851

yet in later census mary anns dau hannah is g.dau to emma.

need that marriage of mary anns.

Marriage of Thomas Higgins and Mary Ann Cutler has been requested for a lookup.

Northern Lass wrote:So is this mary ann cutler in 1851...but odd down as g.dau to joseph cutler
1851 Census, Halesowen, Worc.
Thomas Cutler Hd M M 46 Ag. Lab.
Elizabeth Cutler wife M F 51 Nailer
Elizabeth Cutler dau U F 13 Scholar
Mary Ann Cutler grand-dau F 2
All born Halesowen
(Trans as Cuttler)

do you think mary ann cutler is dau to emma cutler?
down as g.dau in 1851

yet in later census mary anns dau hannah is g.dau to emma.

need that marriage of mary anns.

Sorry, I think I got mixed up

Not too sure what I was thinking. Every time I try to write something I just end in a muddle!

It's families like Cutler and Tromans they do "yer yed" in !! Thanks for all the information.

Ok thanks to RF for look up
25 Dec 1868 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas HIGGINS 23 B Labourer Dudley Father Noah Higgins Labourer
Mary Ann CUTLER 21 S Dudley Father Thomas Cutler (Dec) Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit;William Hingley X / Jane Higgins X

although it says father is thomas cutler ...I think she is dau to Emma....really need birth certif.
going to open new thread on mary ann

Think we have completed on Emma so flagging to archive

CAn someone post the 1911 for emma supposed to be living with joseph guest and Hannah higgins

and looking for her death for completeness

1911
50 California Northfield B Ham, Northfield, Worcestershire, England

Joseph Guest Head Married Male Brick Yard Labour 46 1865 Wood Gate Northfield Worcestershire
Hannah Guest Wife Married Female - 36 1875 Hasbury Halesowen Worcestershire
Ruth Guest Daughter - Female - 1 1910 California Northfield Worcestershire
Thomas William Higgins Son - Male - 7 1904 Hawne Halesowen Worcestershire
Emma Ward Grandmother Widower Female Boarder 84 1827 Lutley Halesowen Worcestershire

Thanks

is there a death anywhere or burial info pls anyone?