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"CompleteTimothy Cox- Rowland Hill puzzle - Mumbles sorting

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:41 pm
by mumbles
HILL Sarah COX Timothy Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/010/175 1895

Believe Timothy married in 1895 and died in same year in mining accident
Sarah Hill father is Rowland Hill

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:24 pm
by rockyfowler
Wrong marriage then as Sarah`s father was Richard Hill a Blacksmith :wink: On Freereg


FreeReg Marriage entry on 31 Aug 2016

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Field VALUE
County Worcestershire
Place Dudley
Church name St Andrew (Netherton)
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number
Marriage date 03 Mar 1895
Groom forename Timothy
Groom surname COX
Groom age 35
Groom condition widower
Groom abode North St.
Groom parish
Groom occupation Miner
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname HILL
Bride age 23
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode North St.
Bride parish
Bride occupation
Groom father forename Daniel
Groom father surname COX
Groom father occupation Miner
Bride father forename Richard
Bride father surname HILL
Bride father occupation Blacksmith
Witness Issachar WILLETTS
Witness Lily HADLINGTON

"Complete"Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:56 pm
by mumbles
Rowland Hill was also a Blacksmith
Timothy is 35 on marriage cert. and 38 on death record and will when leaves estate to Sarah
Either Freereg is in error or I need to research more

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:58 pm
by rockyfowler
Need to get that checked in case :wink:

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:18 pm
by mumbles
Other possible marriages for Timothy
COX Timothy HODGETTS Emma Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/003/333
COX Timothy MORAN Elizabeth West Bromwich, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 25/5/50
Timothy is shown as Widow in marriage to Sarah Hill

COX Timothy HODGETTS Emma Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/003/333 1882

COX Timothy MORAN Elizabeth West Bromwich, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 25/5/50 1882

an Emma Cox aged 29 died Stourbridge 1890
and an Elizabeth Cox died Stourbridge aged 39 in 1891

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:10 pm
by mumbles
RF I think I can prove that father should be Rowland Hill because Timothy's mother Sarah has a Daniel Cox aged 2 as grd.son in 1891 Census (on bcc)
and on 1901 Census Daniel Cox orphan aged 12 is living with George Oliver and Sarah (on bcc)
Sarah Cox who married George Oliver is shown as Widow and father Rowland Hill on marriage record

Timothy married first time to Emma in 1882 I think

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:46 am
by Northern Lass
What's happening with this mumbles do I move to Bc discussion?

has the marriage you needed been answered?

if so I will move.

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:20 am
by mumbles
Move to discussion NL

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:37 pm
by mumbles
Marriage St. Luke Cradley Heath 8/5/1911
Daniel Cox bach. Holloware Worker Cradley Heath father Timothy Cox Dec. Collier
Mary Ann Smith sp. Cradley Heath father Ezra Smith Chain Maker
Witnesses Bert Lawrence and Roseannah Jones

This proves Daniel was son of Timothy Cox and Sarah Hill
as Daniel was living with Sarah Cox (nee Hill) who married George Oliver in 1901 Census and noted as Orphan
On her marriage to George Oliver her father is Rowland Hill Blacksmith
so freereg marriage to Timothy Cox is wrong when it notes Sarah Hill father is Richard Hill Blacksmith

Re: Marriage St.Andews Dudley for Mumbles

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:31 pm
by mumbles
When I added some of info I realised Daniel Cox was born 1889 and Timothy did not marry Sarah till 1895 so Daniel must have been by his first wife who must have died after 1889 and before 1891 When he is shown as a widower

Re: Timothy Cox- Rowland Hill puzzle - Mumbles sorting

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:35 pm
by mumbles
All added with notes

Re: Timothy Cox- Rowland Hill puzzle - Mumbles sorting

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:45 am
by Northern Lass
Ok to arc?

Re: Timothy Cox- Rowland Hill puzzle - Mumbles sorting

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:14 am
by mumbles
OK to Archive