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Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:24 am
by Northern Lass
can we find him on census pls father alfred
got a few alfreds on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =690620309
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:21 pm
by peterd
1911; 25 Mushroom Green Nr Old Hill, Staffs
Josiah Woodhouse 44 Chain Maker cradley heath
Lucretia Woodhouse 50 dudley wood
Selina Woodhouse 21 Chain Maker cradley heath
May Woodhouse 18 Chain Maker cradley heath
Lucretia Woodhouse 11 mushroom green
Mary Ann Plant 80 mother widow new town, dudley wood
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:56 am
by Northern Lass
Odd...
1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WOODHOUSE Alfred PLANT Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/90
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:16 am
by Northern Lass
I can't see Josiah and an Alfred in early census can anyone else
there is this
1901 Fox Oak St Cradley Heath
Mary Ann Plant head wid 69 b Cradley Heath
James Plant son 46 married chainmaker b Cradley Heath
Phyllis Barnbrook? dau m 21?
Isaiah Barnbrook? son in law 25 chainmaker
Albert B...."...... g.son 4
Frank B....".......g.son 8 mths
May Woodhouse G.dau 8
William Shilvock nephew s 53 labourer chain works
all others born Cradley Heath.
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:21 am
by Northern Lass
1896
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BARNBROOK Isaiah WOODHOUSE Phyllis Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/010/335
30 Nov 1896 St Andrew Dudley
Isaiah Bambrook 22 B Striker 27 Dudley Wood Nehemiah Bambrook fitter
Phyllis Woodhouse 23 S 20 Dudley Wood Alfred Woodhouse chainmaker
Witnesses:-John Hayward. Elizabeth Wassell
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:40 am
by Northern Lass
Think Alfred is this one so connected up
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =693403260adding in marriage father is Josiah.
still need census for them after 1861 pls
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:58 am
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:I can't see Josiah and an Alfred in early census can anyone else
there is this
1901 Fox Oak St Cradley Heath
Mary Ann Plant head wid 69 b Cradley Heath
James Plant son 46 married chainmaker b Cradley Heath
Phyllis Barnbrook? dau m 21?
Isaiah Barnbrook? son in law 25 chainmaker
Albert B...."...... g.son 4
Frank B....".......g.son 8 mths
May Woodhouse G.dau 8
William Shilvock nephew s 53 labourer chain works
all others born Cradley Heath.
peterd wrote:1911; 25 Mushroom Green Nr Old Hill, Staffs
Josiah Woodhouse 44 Chain Maker cradley heath
Lucretia Woodhouse 50 dudley wood
Selina Woodhouse 21 Chain Maker cradley heath
May Woodhouse 18 Chain Maker cradley heath
Lucretia Woodhouse 11 mushroom green
Mary Ann Plant 80 mother widow new town, dudley wood
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:04 am
by Northern Lass
got 1901 and 1911 and 1871 adding 1871 now
need 1881 and 1891 pls
i think alfred leaves them or dies?
Mary ann woodhouse nee plant has kids James Plant....born before marriage??
josiah woodhouse and Phyllis woodhouse...father to them alfred.
so is there a death for alfred does he leave or die?
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:58 am
by Jimmy
1891. 43 Tibbetts Lane, Rowley Regis.
Josiah Woodhouse 24.Chain maker.
Selinah Woodhouse 23.
Selinah Woodhouse 1.
Willm H Woodhouse 5/12.
All born Rowley.
I can't see him in 1871 or 1881.
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:57 pm
by Northern Lass
Hmmm something very very odd..
Ok I have connected up Mary Ann Plant as Mary Ann tromans
here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =840577112I think that Mary ann plant is actually Mary Ann tromans father Luke Tromans
1st mar to a Joseph Plant...dunno wot happens to him...cos Mary ann is with father as a Mary ann plant on the 1851 and down as unmar.
dunno where she is in 1861
in 1861 she marries Alfred Woodhouse
1871 she is with son Josiah Newtown
dunno where alfred is...
1901 and 1911 we have her but don't have her in 1881 and 1891
and what is odd is some of the ancestry trees have alfred dying in irvine ayrshire scotland and with a mary bridgewater but this needs proof
It really needs the birth certif of one of marys kids to see her maiden name.
any thoughts?
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:41 pm
by Jimmy
Reverted back to Plant ?
1881. 25 New Town Lane, Rowley Regis.
Mary A. Plant 46. Widow. Dudley.
Josiah Plant 14. Son. Cradley Heath.
Philiss Plant 8. Dau. Cradley Heath.
James Hingley 60. Lodger.
Albert Willetts 22. Lodger.
James Taylor 37. Lodger.
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:59 pm
by Jimmy
Very odd,
1851 Newtown Dudley.
Luke Trowman Head M 69 Nailer Rowley.
Phillis Trowman Wife M 66 Rowley.
George Trowman Son U 30 Trace Maker New Town.
Luke Trowman Son U 38 Tracemaker New Town.
Joseph Trowman Head M 36 Tracemaker Darby End.
Abigail Trowman Wife M 41 Tracemaker Rowley.
Mary Ann Plant D U 21 Washer Woman New Town .
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:50 pm
by rockyfowler
1861
Bowling Green, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Phillis Tromans Head Widow Female 78 1783 Nail Maker Rowley, Staffordshire, England
Luke Tromans Son Married Male 47 1814 Nail Maker Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Benjamin Tromans Son Unmarried Male 41 1820 Nail Maker Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Margaret Plant Daughter In Law Married Female 30 1831 Laundress Dudley, Worcestershire, England
James Plant Grandson - Male 6 1855 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:53 pm
by rockyfowler
1871
Back of Dial, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Mary Siddons Head - Female 62 1809 - Staffordshire, England
Mary Nall Granddaughter - Female 18 1853 - Staffordshire, England
Alfred Woodhouse Visitor - Male 35 1836 - Agri Labourer Dudley Worcestershire, England
Re: Josiah woodhouse
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:12 pm
by rockyfowler
6 May 1844 St Giles Rowley Regis
Charles BRIDGEWATER O B Chain Maker Cradley Heath Father Jesse Bridgewater Nailer
Phoebe BENNETT O S Cradley Heath Father Richard Nailer
By Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Breasier/ George Hadley
1851
Mr Purser's Building, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Charles Bridgwater Head Married Male 35 1816 Chain Maker Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Phoebe Bridgwater Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Hannah Bridgwater Daughter - Female 10 1841 Home Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Mary Bridgwater Daughter - Female 6 1845 Home Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Bridgwater Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Bridgwater Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Is this where Plants join in somewhere?
1861
Blackberry Town, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Christopher Plant Head Married Male 53 1808 Engineer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Phebe Plant Wife Married Female 52 1809 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Rebecca Plant Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Charles Bridgewater Son In Law Married Male 25 1836 Engineer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Phebe Bridgewater - Married Female 22 1839 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Hannah Bridgewater Granddaughter - Female 3 1858 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
John Bridgewater Grandson - Male 0 1861 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28, Smith Street, Govan, Kinning Park, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Alfred Woodhouse Head Married Male 43 1838 Chainmaker -
Mary Woodhouse Wife Married Female 33 1848 - -
John Johnson Boarder Unmarried Male 23 1858 Chainmaker
1891
Peter Street, Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland
Alfred Woodhouse Head Married Male 56 1835 Chainmaker England
Mary Woodhouse Wife Married Female 46 1845 - England
1901
1, Peter Street, Irvine, Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland
Alfred Woodhouse Head Married Male 64 1837 Chairmaker England
Mary Woodhouse Wife Married Female 54 1847 - England