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Can we find Jane previous to marriage? Jane was killed by Benjamin Owen.

Marriage Freereg
2nd November 1851. St Peter, Wolverhampton.
Benjamin Owen, B, Lichfield Street, Gas Tube Maker, Benjamin Owen, Deceased
Jane Johnson, S, Lichfield Street, William Johnson, Deceased
Witnesses, George Holden, Eliza Poole

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =572036681

Newspaper reports say Jane had a sister called Emma, Emma Wright, and that she had a daughter before marriage.

On the newspaper report it says she was 27.

Burial... So if we put a few years either side?
Freereg
22nd October 1859. St Bartholomew, Wednesbury.
Jane Owen, 32, Wednesbury. Corners Order

Name: Jane Owen.
Registration Year: 1859.
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Inferred County: Staffordshire.
Volume: 6b.
Page: 43.

There is this one, could Amah be Emma.

1841. West Bromwich.
Elizabeth Johnson 50.
Thomas Johnson 11.
Jane Johnson 8.
Enoch Johnson 6.
Eli Johnson 5.
Amah Johnson 3.
Mary Johnson 7 Mo.

Janes Mum was still alive according to some reports I have read... saying what a good character Benjamin was.

I have tried to find some of the names mentioned in the paper but they don't see to exist.

I know Jimmy been looking and looking...
I presume Emma wasn't married as it says in one paper that she was known as Emma Wright or along them lines... I thought I had read about her Mum, I thought Elizabeth, so could be what census you put?
It has really got stuck in my head this... would love to unravel more!

It would be good to crack it.

I will move this to brick walls for now...
Jo

I have been picking out some bits to see if this helps...

"It will be seen that the daughter of the deceased, who is 15 years of age, was under the impression previous of her mothers death that she was her sister. This is explained by the fact she was an illegitimate child and in order to conceal this from the prisoner the pretence was set up that she was deceased sister. The unfortunate woman was 37 and not 27 as stated last week."

"Jemima Owen aged 15, daughter of deceased before marriage but who had passed as her sister, deposed that deceased drank with other women on Tuesday afternoon till she became tipsy. Took a cup from her mouth twice. Saw Owen strike her. Owen was a good husband and witness never saw him drunk. Did not know that deceased was her mother until the day of her death."

Martha Bate living Old Bilston-----She married him later.

Eliza and David Cresswell----- Where she died

Mrs Kendrick and two other women drinking in Benjamin Owens

Hannah Rogers aged 15. Bilston Road, Wednesbury
Hannah Pitaway, wife of Thomas Pitaway a puddler. Lloyd Street
Maria wife of John Simmonds a groom
Ann Williams, wife of a miner. Edward Williams

I can't see anything on Jemima, birth or census.

I cant either Jimmy, I keep looking.
Jemima was born around 1844 if age is right in the papers I read. I wonder if they were not from the area? There was one born about that time but her father is Noah. Then a younger daughter of Benjamin and Jane's too... If Jane had died and Benjamin in prison where did she go?
Bugging me!
Jo

Staffordshire.
Place Tipton.
Church name St Martin.
Register type Parish Register.
Register entry number 49.
Marriage date 29 Sep 1834.
Groom forename John
Groom surname LUCAS.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Tipton.
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname OWEN.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Tipton.
Witness William MADELEY.
Witness Thomas SHORTHOUSE.
Register note Groom, bride and witness 1 sign X.

1861. Lloyd Street, Wednesbury.
Thomas Pittaway 34. Puddler.
Hannah Pittaway 30.
Daniel Pittaway 13.
John Pittaway 1.
James Pittaway 17.
Sarah Ann Warnat 7.

1861. Bilston Road, Wednesbury.
William Rogers 35.
Mary Ann Rogers 41.
Hannah Rogers 15.
Emma Rogers 14.
John Rogers 12.
Ann Rogers 11.
Ellen Rogers 8.
William Rogers 6.
Mary Ann Rogers 3.
Hester Rogers 9/12.