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Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:12 pm
by grangers14
We have Elizabeth Cole born around 1831 here on BCC
There have been 2 marriages and each time says David Willetts is her father but she was single at first marriage?
Marriage
Free REG
28th May 1855. St Edmund, Dudley
William Johnson, Full Age, B, Dudley, Chain Maker, no fathers details, just deceased
Elizabeth Cole, Full Age, S, Dudley, David Willetts, Burry Collier
Witnesses, Thomas Johnson, Elizabeth Johnson
Marriage looked up by RF
18 Jun 1876 St Thomas, Dudley
Henry Charles DAVIES 43 W Stone Mason Dudley Father Thomas Davies (Dec) Sculptor
Elizabeth JOHNSON 44 W Dudley Father David Willetts (Dec) Collier
After Banns Henry Signed The X Of Elizabeth
Wit; Robert Collins/ Jane Collins
Can anybody see her pre marriage please?
Jo

Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:41 pm
by Jimmy
1881. 136 Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis.
Henry C. Davis 47. Stone mason.
Elizebeth Davis 49.
Harriett Johnson 23. S dau.
Ann M. Johnson 17. S dau.
George Davis 13. Son. Breedon.
Others born Rowley Regis.
1871. Reddall Hill, Rowley Regis.
William Johnson 40. Chain maker. Dudley.
Elizabeth Johnson 39.
Sarah Johnson 16.
Harriet Johnson 12.
Matildia Johnson 7.
Mary Ann Johnson 4.
Ellen Johnson 2.
William Hy Johnson 3 Months.
Others born Rowley Regis.
1861. Reddall Hill, Rowley Regis.
William Johnson 30. Chain maker. Dudley.
Elizabeth Johnson 29.
Sarah Johnson 6.
Harriet Johnson 4.
Eliza Johnson 6/12.
Others born Rowley Regis.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:43 pm
by Jimmy
Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 4294.
Baptism date 27 Jan 1833
Person forename Elizabeth.
Person sex F.
Person abode Rowley Regis.
Father forename David
Father surname WILLETTS.
Father occupation Nailer.
Mother forename Harriott.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:14 pm
by Jimmy
Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 354.
Marriage date 08 Apr 1833.
Groom forename John
Groom surname WILLITTS.
Groom condition widower.
Groom parish Dudley.
Bride forename Harriot
Bride surname COLE.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride parish Dudley.
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname ALLEN
Witness2 forename Thomas.
Witness2 surname COLE.
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness1 signed.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:24 pm
by Jimmy
1841. New Town, Rowley Regis.
John Willetts 40. Chain maker.
Hariot Willetts 30. Nailer.
Joseph Willetts 15. Chain maker. n.b.i.c.
John Willetts 12. Chain maker.
Thomas Willetts 5.
Ephriam Willetts 3.
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Elizabeth Cole 8.
1851. New Town, Rowley Regis.
John Willetts 51. Chain maker.
Harriet Willetts 45.
Thomas Willetts 15. Son.
Ephraim Willetts 12. Son.
All born Rowley Regis.
1861. Newtown, Rowley Regis.
John Willetts 61. Chain maker.
Harriet Willetts 64.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:31 pm
by grangers14
I have seen that Jimmy. Puzzles me why it says David as Father, Elizabeth says David but then John???
So she was born before marriage??

Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:34 pm
by Jimmy
There is this, poor bloke,
Staffordshire.
Place Rowley Regis.
Church name St Giles.
Register type Unspecified.
Burial date 14 Mar 1832.
Person age 43.
Burial person forename David.
Burial person surname COLE.
Burial person abode Sleck Hillock.
Notes Poisoned by drinking a composition which his wife retailed as a specific for the gout.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:38 pm
by grangers14
Probably Elizabeth here as Willetts before marriage with husbands family!!
1851
4
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 57 - Widow
Thomas Johnson 23
Elizabeth Johnson 23
George Johnson 4 - grandson
Daniel Johnson 2 - grandson
William Johnson 19 - son - Chainmaker
Elizabeth Willetts 18 - lodger - Chainmaker
all b Bowling Green, Nailors
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:42 pm
by grangers14
Jimmy wrote:There is this, poor bloke,
Staffordshire.
Place Rowley Regis.
Church name St Giles.
Register type Unspecified.
Burial date 14 Mar 1832.
Person age 43.
Burial person forename David.
Burial person surname COLE.
Burial person abode Sleck Hillock.
Notes Poisoned by drinking a composition which his wife retailed as a specific for the gout.
That is his Dad!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=370203The marriage to John says she is spinster?
All seems to add up but isnt?

Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:39 pm
by Jimmy
Worcestershire
Place Dudley
Church name St Thomas
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 1 Nov 1807
Person forename Harriott
Person sex F
Father forename Edward
Father surname COLE
Mother forename Sarah.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:41 pm
by Jimmy
Looks like Edward Cole on BCC,
1841. Lye Cross, Rowley Regis.
Edward Cole 70.
Sarah Cole 66.
Henry Cole 27.
Elizth Cole 21.
Emma Cole 11.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=370204Staffordshire.
Place Rowley Regis.
Church name St Giles.
Register type Unspecified.
Burial date 02 Nov 1845.
Person age 77.
Burial person forename Edward.
Burial person surname COLE.
Burial person abode Four Ways? Lane End.
Notes Paralytic Stroke.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:41 pm
by Jimmy
Staffordshire.
Place Rowley Regis.
Church name St Giles.
Register type Unspecified.
Marriage date 24 Dec 1844.
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname LEASE.
Groom age Full Age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Portway.
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname COLE.
Bride age Full Age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Portway.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname LEASE.
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename Edward
Bride father surname COLE.
Bride father occupation Nailer.
Witness1 forename John
Witness1 surname PHILLIPS.
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname PHILLIPS.
Notes Groom, Bride & Witness 2 sign X.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:54 pm
by grangers14
Just not getting this...

Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 12:18 am
by Jimmy
It looks to me that she made David Willetts up.
Re: Elizabeth Cole born abt 1831
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:17 pm
by grangers14