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I keep coming back to this one and just wondered with the 1939 if anyone could have a look and see if she is on it there.

I can't find a death for her at all.

here she is on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =978483470

she is on 1891 with husband William
1891 - 41 St. Giles St., Netherton, Dudley
William Rose Head 39 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Jane Rose Wife 33 b. Warwickshire, Soho
Arthur Rose 16 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
Ernest Rose 13 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
William Rose 11 b. Durham, Sunderland
Samuel Rose 9 b. Durham, Sunderland
George H Rose 7 b. Durham, Sunderland
Rosannah Rose 5 b. Staffs., Cradley
Lilly E Rose 2 b. Staffs., Cradley


bit odd she puts her place of birth as soho warks as should be walsall..............I did wonder if he had just added her in on census and she
wasnt actually there.

She has last child in 1887 ...........not sure where as not got that birth certif but presume rregis area.

Then William is with his new lady having kids in 1898 at 28 B'ham st dudley

and then still at 28 bham st dudley with new lady ellen
1901 - 28 Birmingham St., Dudley
William Rose Head 49 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Ellen Rose Wife 26 b. Worcs., Netherton (This is Ellen DOWNES)
Lilly Rose Daur 13 b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Frederick Rose Son 11 b. Worcs., Dudley

he goes onto assault her and gets arrested..3mths ...not sure where (have looked)....

So my question is where is Jane between 1887 and 1901

it is not the one aged 44 dying in 1902 I have the death certif for that one.

It is like she just disappears.

any ideas?

any likely burials

at say St thomas?

or anywhere?

Daft suggestion coming up but could she have died visiting rels/friends in Durham as some of her children were born there?

spes123 wrote:Daft suggestion coming up but could she have died visiting rels/friends in Durham as some of her children were born there?

She could have died anywhere I suppose....but that is a good idea will see if any likely deaths that match

I can't find anything after 1891.

Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Edmund.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 533.
Baptism date 11 Dec 1898.
Birth date 05 Dec 1898.
Person forename Beatrice Ellen.
Person sex F.
Person abode 28 Birmingham St.
Father forename William
Father surname ROSE.
Father occupation Chainmaker.
Mother forename Ellen.

Deaths Dec 1898.
Rose Beatrice Helen. 0. Dudley. 6c. 71.

another off field idea could William and Jane split and gone about their lives as a widow and widower even though that was false? so could Jane have reverted back to her old name and remarried?

I still bet she is under the patio Jan.

spes123 wrote:another off field idea could William and Jane split and gone about their lives as a widow and widower even though that was false? so could Jane have reverted back to her old name and remarried?

I think that on 1891 it isnt Jane ............although it says Jane...........that address of soho warks is rubbish...

she has a kid 1887 Lily elizabeth..............then is maybe on 1891 if her......then in 1898 William is with Ellen having kids

I really need to see where she is in 1887 when having lily but need a bapt or birth certif for that.

can't see a bapt for Lily can anyone else please.

I think she met some misfortune

I can'et see a baptism for Lily either.

I never trust other peoples trees on ancestry without doing my own research but this may be of some help

http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/83748 ... 5690/facts

Simon

ps if this is right both William and Jane died on the same day

Northern Lass wrote:1891 - 41 St. Giles St., Netherton, Dudley
William Rose Head 39 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Jane Rose Wife 33 b. Warwickshire, Soho
Arthur Rose 16 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
Ernest Rose 13 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
William Rose 11 b. Durham, Sunderland
Samuel Rose 9 b. Durham, Sunderland
George H Rose 7 b. Durham, Sunderland
Rosannah Rose 5 b. Staffs., Cradley
Lilly E Rose 2 b. Staffs., Cradley.

Have you any proof that Jane is the mother to any of these children.

Yes certificates

spes123 wrote:I never trust other peoples trees on ancestry without doing my own research but this may be of some help

http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/83748 ... 5690/facts

Simon

ps if this is right both William and Jane died on the same day

No they didn't that tree is wrong.

I have full info on when William Died ...see Bcc notes. he died in workhouse/hospital

Jane no proof when she died hence post.

Have not been able to get on bcc even using the links in the posts on here so can't read your notes

Simon