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Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--Jo adding Bcc

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:09 pm
by dudleytaylor
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=360037


I have a problem with the marriage of Sarah Cox to William Rowbottom . I have a marriage certificate that says that she married William Thomas Bishton on the 14 July 1901 Parish Church of Blackheath .


William Bishton 39 Widower Boilermaker Station Lane Father; Thomas Bishton (Dec) Manager, Sarah Cox 29 Spinster Oldbury Road Father; James Cox Collier Wit: Henry Crane and Mary Woodward

In some of your cenuses the address for Sarah is Oldbury Road , which is the same address on the marriage certificate . Just wondered what u think ? DT

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:29 pm
by BC Wench
I think these 2 Sarah Cox are the same person.

Firstly she married William Rowbottom

Marriage Holy Trinity, Old Hill : 28 Feb 1891
William Rowbottom, 26, B, Miner, of King Street, Father Samuel Rowbottom, Miner
Sarah Cox, 19, S, of Blackheath, Father James Cox, Miner
Wit : Samuel Mason and Ann Westwood

They are both together on the 1891 census

1891: 55 Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
James Cox 59 Head Coalminer
Ann Cox 53 Wife Oldbury, Worc
Rebecca Cox 17 Dau
Jane Cox 12 Dau
Thomas Woodward 26 Son in Law Marr Coalminer
Mary Cox 28 Dau Marr Nailmaker (Woodward on image)
Elizabeth Ann Woodward 4 Grd Dau
William Rowbottom 26 Son in Law Marr Coalminer
Sarah Rowbottom 19 Dau Marr
(others born Rowley Regis)

William in 1901 & 1911 censuses is living with his mother and states that he's married, but no wife listed.

1901: Kelvin Grove, Wombwell, Yorks
Maria Rowbottom, Head.Wid, 64, Charwoman, Oldbury
William Rowbottom, Son.Married, 36, Coal Hewer, West Bromwich
James Rowbottom, Son, 26
Elizabeth Rowbottom, Dau, 22

1911: Kelvin Grove, Wombwell, Yorks
Maria Rowbottom, Head.Wid, 74
William Rowbottom, Son.Married, 46 - Married: 23yrs crossed through

In the meantime, Sarah marries William Thomas Bishton in 1901, saying that she's a Spinster, but by this time would still have been married to William Rowbottom.

14 July 1901 Parish Church of Blackheath
William Bishton, 39, Widower, Boilermaker, Station Lane, Thomas Bishton (Dec) Manager
Sarah Cox, 29, Spinster, Oldbury Road, James Cox, Collier
Wit: Henry Crane and Mary Woodward

1911: Laburnam Cottage, Hayseech, Old Hill
William J(T) Bishton, Head.M, 47, Boiler Rivetter, Netherton
Sarah Bishton, Wife, 49, Blackheath
Married: 27yrs 9 Children 6 Living 3 Died
Lily Bishton, Dau.S, 23
Maria Bishton 18
Thomas Henry Bishton 15
Beatrice Bishton 9
Frank Bishton 5
Fred Bishton 3

William T Bishton's first marriage

Marriage: 1885
Thomas BISHTON & Leah DORSE Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/003/464

1891: New Street, Cradley
Thomas Bishton, Head.M, 27, Boiler Maker, Netherton
Leah Bishton, Wife, 26
Fanny Bishton , Dau, 5, Scholar, (Age transcribed as 52)
Lily Bishton, Dau, 4
Nellie Bishton, Dau, 1
(All others born Cradley)

???Deaths Mar 1898
Leah Bishton 35 Birmingham 6d 82

1901: Station Lane, Cakemore, Halesowen
William Thomas Bishton, Head.Wid, 37, Boiler Maker, Netherton
Fanny Francis Bishton, Dau, 15
Nellie Bishton, Dau, 11
Lizzie Bishton, Dau, 8
Thomas Henry Bishton, Son, 6
(All others born Cradley)

1911: Laburnam Cottage, Hayseech, Old Hill
William J(T) Bishton, Head.M, 47, Boiler Rivetter, Netherton
Sarah Bishton, Wife, 49, Blackheath
Married: 27yrs 9 Children 6 Living 3 Died
Lily Bishton, Dau.S, 23
Maria Bishton 18
Thomas Henry Bishton, 15
Beatrice Bishton,
Frank Bishton, 5
Fred Bishton, 3

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:38 pm
by rockyfowler
Just needs the marr adding to BCC she didnt mention being widow or not (being pregnant with Beatrice) at the time :wink:

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:39 pm
by dudleytaylor
Thanks very much for your help BC Wench , it's very confusing , now I have to get it on my tree . LOL .

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:13 am
by rockyfowler
Theres a Bishton tree on Ancestry that has a lot of certs- you can access ancestry at a library or archives free :wink:

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:01 am
by dudleytaylor
Thank u RF . I am already on Ancestry and I am related to the Bishtons from a marriage to the Hazlewoods, also Sarah Cox relates to my Steventon Darby family ,bit like a jigsaw puzzle . xx :-)

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:08 pm
by gardener
There is a Sarah Cox as a servant in 1901. perhaps that is her?

1901
Edgbaston
Wilfred Ratcliff 38
Helen F H Ratcliff 28
Honora M Ratcliff 11/12
Frances E Skoimshire 65
Alice L Heywood 19
Rosina L Stevens 24
Sarah Cox 29 s cook (domestic) Blackheath, Staffordshire

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:09 pm
by dudleytaylor
Thanks Gardener , I do think it could be Sarah . Thank you xx DT x

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:18 pm
by grangers14
I have added here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =813756623

I am a little confused as to names underlined here and where born in 1911??

Lizzie Bishton, Dau, 8
Thomas Henry Bishton, Son, 6
All others born Cradley

1911: Laburnam Cottage, Hayseech, Old Hill
William J(T) Bishton, Head.M, 47, Boiler Rivetter, Netherton
Sarah Bishton, Wife, 49, Blackheath
Married: 27yrs 9 Children 6 Living 3 Died
Lily Bishton, Dau.S, 23
Maria Bishton 18 It says born Ritch Berg USA british subject by parentage
Thomas Henry Bishton 15
Beatrice Bishton 9
Frank Bishton 5
Fred Bishton 3

Added the marriage for look up, Leah is probably on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =347889548

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:46 pm
by dudleytaylor
William and Thomas Bishton are related Thomas Bishton Esther Hazlewood are his parents and that makes him my 1st cousin 2x removed http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=360174 DT

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:09 pm
by grangers14
Still working on this but have added here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =962142818

and also connected to Mark Cooksley.
I did have a census up that I think was Steventon I thought may be connected but cant find it now. Will look tomorrow.

Do you know anything about Marie and USA connections DT? And would you like your name adding as connecting?
Jo :)

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:23 am
by dudleytaylor
Thanks for help . Please add my name . I am not sure who Marie is or the connection , I will have to have a look on my tree DT

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:34 am
by dudleytaylor
Know who u mean now . Maria Bishton , all i have on her is the 1911 census with her birth USA . Will try and find out . DT

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--NL adding Bcc

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:41 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jo will you archive this when all done :wink:

Re: Sarah Cox 1871 Rowley Regis--Jo adding Bcc

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:43 pm
by grangers14
I have been searching for some childrens names...
Lily is with her uncle Harry Dorse in the 1901 census, I can connect up while waiting on marriage look up.

Lizzie in 1901 aged 18...Could she be Hannah Elizabeth b Dec quarter 1892??

Maria in 1911 aged 18 born USA... is meant to be born the same year but isn't on the 1901 census that I can see anywhere? I can see nothing on the family leaving uk or returning??
Jo :?