ARC TBC John Boilstone b abt 1795 Rowley Regis

[grangers14]

We have John Boilstone on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =301734206

I have been looking for him on census, this is the only one I have been able to find
1871. Whiteheath, Rowley Regis.
John Boilstone, head, w, 72, labourer in chemical works
Elizabeth, daur, Unm, 42, Nail maker,
Ellen, grand daur, 19, Nail maker
William, grand son, 16, Coal miner
Joseph, grand son, 13, Coal miner
Jane, grand daur, 10,
Hannah, grand daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

It is possible he died 1878 and his wife Phebe in 1866

Can anyone see this family?

[mallosa]

Sorry Jo, can't see anything

[Jimmy]

There is this one.

Name: J B.
Age: 61.
Estimated birth year: 1800.
Relation: Prisoner.
Gender: Male.
Where born: Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England.
Civil Parish: Claines and Whistones.
County/Island: Worcestershire.
Country: England.
Street address:

Occupation: Nailer.

Condition as to marriage: Married.

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Registration district: Worcester.
Sub-registration district: North Worcester.
ED, institution, or vessel: County Gaol and House of Correction.
Neighbors: View others on page.
Household schedule number: 1.
Piece: 2092.
Folio: 150.
Page Number: 8.

[gardener]

We have John Boilstone on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =301734206

I have been looking for him on census, this is the only one I have been able to find
1871. Whiteheath, Rowley Regis.
John Boilstone, head, w, 72, labourer in chemical works
Elizabeth, daur, Unm, 42, Nail maker,
Ellen, grand daur, 19, Nail maker
William, grand son, 16, Coal miner
Joseph, grand son, 13, Coal miner
Jane, grand daur, 10,
Hannah, grand daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

It is possible he died 1878 and his wife Phebe in 1866

Can anyone see this family?

could it be this lot?

1861
White Heath
John Bullass 64 colliery watchman and miner
Hannah Bullass 60
Elizabeth Bullass dau 30
James Bullass son 20
Otha Bullass grand dau 9 [looks like Ellen on image]
William Bullass grand son 6
Joseph Bullass grands son3
Jane Bullass grand dau 10/12

all born RR

[gardener]

I wondered about these

1841
Whiteheath Gate, Hales owen
John Boilstone 30 coal miner
Hannah Boilstone 35
Elizth Boilstone 10
Ruben Boilstone 6
James Boilstone 1

all born in county

[gardener]

1851
Whiteheath Gate, Rowley Regis
John Ballas 52 labourer
Hannah Ballas 44
Elizabeth Ballas 20
Rueben Ballas 16 coal miner
James Ballas 10

Only they claim to be born Tipton

[grangers14]

Thank you everyone for helping to look...
Interesting find Gardener, I will have to look more. Seems a good possible for first names and ages. Just Johns wife was Phebe? And there are possible matches for dates of births to date of deaths
Just going round in circles with this.
Jo

[gardener]

There isn't really any proof that the John Boilstone in the 1871 is the same one as on BCC is there?
We only have the three kids on BCC and they are all married by then aren't they?
So how do you know that is him?

[grangers14]

I dont Gardener! I was going by the possible deaths and ages of John and Phebe...

Deaths Sep 1866
Boilstone Phebe 73 Dudley 6c 2

Deaths Jun 1878
BOILSTONE John 83 Dudley 6c 3

[gardener]

We have John Boilstone on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =301734206

I have been looking for him on census, this is the only one I have been able to find
1871. Whiteheath, Rowley Regis.
John Boilstone, head, w, 72, labourer in chemical works
Elizabeth, daur, Unm, 42, Nail maker,
Ellen, grand daur, 19, Nail maker
William, grand son, 16, Coal miner
Joseph, grand son, 13, Coal miner
Jane, grand daur, 10,
Hannah, grand daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

It is possible he died 1878 and his wife Phebe in 1866

Can anyone see this family?

could it be this lot?

1861
White Heath
John Bullass 64 colliery watchman and miner
Hannah Bullass 60
Elizabeth Bullass dau 30
James Bullass son 20
Otha Bullass grand dau 9 [looks like Ellen on image]
William Bullass grand son 6
Joseph Bullass grands son3
Jane Bullass grand dau 10/12

all born RR

I am sure that these are the same family.

In 1861 their neighbours are

Joseph Barley 39
Susanna Barley 39
Jane Barley 15
Rebecca Barley 8
Sarah Barley 3
Susanna Barley 6/12
and they are still next door in 1871.

So if this John is married to Hannah in 1861 it can't be the one that you want for BCC.

Given this odd Boilstone/Bullas(s) thing, and the difficulty finding John and Phebe then I suspect that they too used an odd way to spell their names! The deaths look good though. Any chance that there would be an address on the burial record?

[grangers14]

It does look like the same family Gardener.
Deaths certs of them both I suppose would help...
I will add that family on BCC, I dont think they are on.
But it is odd that Boilstone and Bullas is mixed up?
Jo

[gardener]

It is very odd. I wish it was possible to search with two wildcards in the same surname. I've tried every which way to find John and Phebe

[grangers14]

I have for days!
Jo

[kiwibrummie]

My Gt grandmother was Mary Ann Boilstone, daughter of Joseph B & Rachel Fletcher. Joseph's father was John Boilstone who married Phebe Grosvenor at Rowley Regis with Clent 06 Jun 1813 their first son was William 20 Feb 1814 then Joseph 7 Jul 1816 and Sarah 04 Oct 1818. Phebe was bapt. 202/04/1794 parents joseph Grosvenor and Mary (Unknown). He was living with Joseph & Rachel in 1841

[gardener]

My Gt grandmother was Mary Ann Boilstone, daughter of Joseph B & Rachel Fletcher. Joseph's father was John Boilstone who married Phebe Grosvenor at Rowley Regis with Clent 06 Jun 1813 their first son was William 20 Feb 1814 then Joseph 7 Jul 1816 and Sarah 04 Oct 1818. Phebe was bapt. 202/04/1794 parents joseph Grosvenor and Mary (Unknown). He was living with Joseph & Rachel in 1841

Hi
You don't know where John and Phebe are on the census do you?

Should we add Sarah's marriage and stuff?
This must be her in 1851
Waterfall Lane (next door to her brother William)
Thomas Powell 35
Sarah Powell 31
Pheabe Powell 6
Thomas Powell 10 Mo