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ARC TBC Thomas Bills

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:54 pm
by nessa
I am struggling to find the marriage for Thomas Bills 1794-1872 parents Francis Bills and Mary Dimmock, possible marriage to Hannah Pearman born Bilston 1810.
In 1841 Thomas is living in Cradley
Thomas 40 chainmaker
Hannah 33
Benj. 15
Thomas 10
Daniel 10
Stephen 5
Mary 3
Ann 3
John 1
All but the last 3 children were not born in the country.
1851 and 1861 they continue to live in Cradley.
Their first two children appear to have been born in Liverpool, also Mary and Ann

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:26 pm
by gardener
Not what you wanted, but...

Baptism: 31 Oct 1828 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Bills - [Child] of Thomas Bills & Hannah
Abode: Freemasons Row
Occupation: Black Smith
Baptised by: Wheeler Milner Off. Minr.
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1829, Page 112, Entry 896
Source: LDS Film 93877

from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:08 pm
by gardener
Name: Benjamin Bills
Baptism Date: 19 Feb 1826
Parish: Toxteth, St James
Father's name: Thomas Bills
Mother's name: Ann Bills
Reference Number: 283 JAM/2/1


So marriage before that, and to either Ann or Hannah. Is that it?


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I can't find a marriage either :(

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:12 pm
by nessa
The date and names seem to fit, so could Thomas have married in Liverpool not in Cradley?

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:35 pm
by gardener
It is possible. But then you would have to get them both there, prior to the marriage. Somewhere Worc/Staffs/Shrop/Warwick would be easier but I can't find anything anywhere!

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:54 am
by Northern Lass
Have you got the birth certif of one of the kids nessa what is the mothers maiden name on there?

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:21 am
by nessa
Am I right in thinking birth certificates weren't issued until 1837, if that is the case I will send for John Bills born about 1840 in Cradley, would that be Staffordshire or Worcestershire, would Dudley be the best place to try?

Nessa

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:59 pm
by nessa
Have checked and there are possibly 5 John Bills within the timeframe too many to send for, so will have to think of something else.
Nessa

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:48 pm
by grangers14
What about this one?
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1845
BILLS Elizabeth Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/005/381

On BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =898555161

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:06 pm
by nessa
They seem to have moved around quite a lot Liverpool, Devon, Cradley. Would be worth trying. Thank you.

Nessa

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:14 pm
by gardener
Name: Septimus Bills
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1832
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Father: Thomas Bills
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 378767, 378769, 378770

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:46 am
by Northern Lass
nessa wrote:They seem to have moved around quite a lot Liverpool, Devon, Cradley. Would be worth trying. Thank you.

Nessa


At least that way you will get the maiden name of the mother
by sending for say Elizabeths birth that Gardener seems to have found

let us know will you if you do get it :wink:

think we are stuck on this until we confirm maiden name so moving to brick walls

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:04 pm
by gardener
Not me - 'twas grangers14 :-)

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:52 pm
by nessa
Elizabeth's birth cert just arrived

16 February 1845 Brickyard Cradley Elizabeth Girl father Thomas Bills mother Hannah Bills formerly Wild fathers trade chainmaker Mark of mother Brick yard Cradley Reg. 20 February 1845 Halesowen Worcestershire.

There is a Hannah Wild bapt St Leonard Bilston 16 December 1810 parents John and Hannah Wild.

At least I know her maiden name wasn't Pearman. Still looking for a marriage for Thomas and Hannah.

Nessa

Re: Thomas Bills

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:26 am
by Northern Lass
well done nessa have added to bcc too
thank you :wink: