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COMPLETED - Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:01 pm
by mallosa
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County Worcestershire
Place Halesowen
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type PR
Register entry number 295
Marriage date 30 Aug 1885
Groom forename Elijah
Groom surname ROBERTS
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Islington, Borough
Groom occupation brick maker
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname HILL
Bride age 20
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Islington, Borough
Bride occupation nail maker
Groom father forename Elijah
Groom father surname ROBERTS
Groom father occupation nail maker
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname HILL
Bride father occupation nail maker
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname ROBERTS
Witness2 forename Phoebe
Witness2 surname ROBERTS
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:25 pm
by mallosa
Can we find further info please?
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:17 am
by Jimmy
1891. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 57. Nail maker.
Carline Hill 52.
Samuel Hill 26.
Elizebeth Hill 24. Single.
Thomas Hill 17.
Louisa Hill 15.
Alice Hill 11,
Eliza Roberts 5. Grand dau.
1901. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 68. Nail maker.
Caroline Hill 63.
Lousia Hill 25. Dau.
Alice Hill 21. Dau.
Eliza Roberts 15. Grand dau.
William Pritchard 10. Grand son.
All born Lye.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:23 am
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1858.
HILL Thomas. SMITH Caroline. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/017/257.
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County Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register entry number 257.
Marriage date 11 Jul 1858.
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname HILL.
Groom age full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Dudley.
Groom occupation Horse Nail Maker.
Bride forename Caroline
Bride surname SMITH.
Bride age minor.
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Dudley.
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname HILL.
Groom father occupation Nailer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname SMITH.
Bride father occupation Miner (deceased).
Witness1 forename James
Witness1 surname HILL.
Witness2 forename Louisa
Witness2 surname CHANIE.
Notes By Banns-Groom signed. Bride & witnesses marked X.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:42 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1891. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 57. Nail maker.
Carline Hill 52.
Samuel Hill 26.
Elizebeth Hill 24. Dau. Single.
Thomas Hill 17.
Louisa Hill 15.
Alice Hill 11,
Eliza Roberts 5. Grand dau.
1901. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 68. Nail maker.
Caroline Hill 63.
Lousia Hill 25. Dau.
Alice Hill 21. Dau.
Eliza Roberts 15. Grand dau.
William Pritchard 10. Grand son.
All born Lye.
I can't see Elijah after marriage.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:44 am
by Jimmy
1881. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 46.
Careline Hill 41.
William Hill 20. Son.
Samuel Hill 18. Son.
Elizebth Hill 14. Dau.
Mary Hill 12. Dau.
Martha Hill 10. Dau.
Thomas Hill 6. Son.
Lousas Hill 4. Dau.
Alice Hill 1. Dau.
All born Lye.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:47 am
by Jimmy
There is this,
Deaths Jun 1894.
Roberts Elijah. 30. Stourbridge. 6c. 82.
Staffordshire.
Place Quarry Bank.
Church name Christ Church.
Register type PR.
Register entry number 1386.
Burial date 29 Apr 1894.
Person age 30.
Burial person forename Elijah
Burial person surname ROBERTS.
Burial person abode Quarry Bank.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:29 pm
by mallosa
Jimmy wrote:1891. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 57. Nail maker.
Carline Hill 52.
Samuel Hill 26.
Elizebeth Hill 24. Single.
Thomas Hill 17.
Louisa Hill 15.
Alice Hill 11,
Eliza Roberts 5. Grand dau.
1901. Stocking St, Wollescote.
Thomas Hill 68. Nail maker.
Caroline Hill 63.
Lousia Hill 25. Dau.
Alice Hill 21. Dau.
Eliza Roberts 15. Grand dau.
William Pritchard 10. Grand son.
All born Lye.
We know Elizabeth married in 1885, so are we saying that the enumerator made a mistake with her marital status?
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:39 pm
by Jimmy
It looks to me as a marriage of convenience and she reverted back to her maiden name.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:42 pm
by mallosa
That's a nice way of putting it Jimmy

Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:50 pm
by Jimmy
Or a shot gun wedding.
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:06 pm
by mallosa
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1858.
HILL Thomas. SMITH Caroline. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/017/257.
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Register entry number 257.
Marriage 11 Jul 1858 St Thomas, Dudley, Worc
Thomas HILL full age bachelor Dudley Horse Nail Maker Father: William HILL nailer
Caroline SMITH minor spinster Dudley Father: John SMITH miner (deceased)
Wit 1: James HILL (his brother?)
Wit 2: Louisa CHANIE
Notes: By Banns-Groom signed. Bride & witnesses marked X.
Thomas and his father are already on BCC, gonna connect up....
Re: Elijah Roberts/ Elizabeth Hill
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:27 pm
by mallosa