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ARC TBC John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:09 am
by mumbles
This John Martin obviously from Census married an Ellen Goodman but cannot find marriage ?
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =7000200771901 Census 47a Back Cross Street Dudley Worcs.
John Martin Head 25 Miner & Hewer born Tipton Staffs.
Ellen Martin wife 28
Joseph Martin son 7
Alfred Martin son 3
Benjamin Goodman father.in.law 66 (wid)) Miner & Hewer born Brierley Hill Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
1911 Census 48a Cross Street Dudley Worcs.
John Martin Head 38 Coal Miner Loader born Tipton Staffs.
Ellen Martin wife 40
Married 19 years,8 children,5 living
Joseph Martin son 18 Brass Dresser
Alfred Martin son 14
Lily Martin dau 7 Scholar
William Martin son 4 Scholar
David Martin son 1
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:18 am
by Northern Lass
so they should be married about 1892
I cant see any marriage at all....can anyone
there is this but dont think it is them
1897
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MARTIN John WOODHOUSE Ellen West Bromwich, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 23/8/436
maybe they didnt marry
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:22 am
by Northern Lass
another child?
Births Mar 1914
MARTIN Harold Goodman Dudley 6b 2042
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:24 am
by Northern Lass
death?
Deaths Sep 1932
Martin Ellen R 62 Dudley 6b 786
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:47 am
by Northern Lass
Anyone see the marriage please
and a possible death for John Martin?

Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:04 am
by Northern Lass
can anyone see the marriage for her mother and father too...............cant see that one either
Benjamin Goodman and Rebecca ?????
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:55 am
by Jimmy
I couldn't see one.
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:48 am
by Northern Lass
we are totally stuck on this one mumbles
move to brickwalls?
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:14 pm
by mumbles
Yes please NL
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:43 pm
by mallosa
been looking for ages but can only come up with this...
Marriages Dec 1893
Howell Sarah Ann Wolstanton 6b 213
Martin John Henry Wolstanton 6b 213
Robinson Sarah Ellen Wolstanton 6b 213
Thompson Charles Wolstanton 6b 213
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:44 pm
by mallosa
Northern Lass wrote:death?
Deaths Sep 1932
Martin Ellen R 62 Dudley 6b 786
Ellen
Robinson Martin perhaps ?
Can't see anything relating to Goodman though

Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:03 pm
by Jimmy
mallosa wrote:been looking for ages but can only come up with this...
Marriages Dec 1893
Howell Sarah Ann Wolstanton 6b 213
Martin John Henry Wolstanton 6b 213
Robinson Sarah Ellen Wolstanton 6b 213
Thompson Charles Wolstanton 6b 213
Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1893.
MARTIN John H. ROBINSON Sarah E. Sneyd, Holy Trinity. Stoke-On-Trent 29/3/119.
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:09 pm
by Jimmy
mallosa wrote:Northern Lass wrote:death?
Deaths Sep 1932
Martin Ellen R 62 Dudley 6b 786
Ellen
Robinson Martin perhaps ?
Can't see anything relating to Goodman though

Poss, slightly out,
Births Sep 1872.
Goodman Ellen Rebecca. Dudley. 6c. 112.
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:33 pm
by Jimmy
1881. Dunn Street, Dudley.
Benjamin Goodman 43. Collier. Brierley Hill.
James Goodman 23.
Ann Goodman 21.
Ellen Goodman 10.
Others born Dudley.
1891. 19 Church Street, Dudley.
Edward Peaches 30. Puddler. Looks like Perkes.
Zeripha Peaches 34.
Alice Peaches 1. Dau.
Job Haddinton 13. Step son.
Alfred Haddinton 11. Step son.
Benjamin Goodman 56. Father in law. Widow.
Ellen Goodman 19. Sister in law.
Lowcia Haddinton 8. Step sister.
All born Dudley.
From Freebmd,
Marriages Mar 1887.
Hadley Zipporah Dudley . 6c. 21. gw4jlk.
Postems for this entry:
02/01/2009 Zipporah (Zeprah in 1901 census)Hadley or Hadlington married Edward Perkes in Dudley St James.
02/01/2009 Zipporah Goodman (1856) married Obadiah Haglington (1857 - 1883) in 1877.
WMBMD,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1887.
PERKS Edward. HADLINGTON Zipporah. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/010/280.
Re: John Martin/Ellen Goodman
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 am
by Northern Lass
She is an Ellen Rebecca Goodman so think that 1872 is her
there was a poss death for ellen r martin in 1932 ...........cant remember where now.