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Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:14 am
by mumbles
This William Hipkiss
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ver=351792
Is possibly This William Hipkiss
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ver=351792

If one looks at these two Weddings
25/10/1847 St. Thomas Dudley
Joseph Hipkiss bach. Miner Dudley Father William Hipkiss Nailer
Hannah Grove sp. father Joseph Grove Furnaceman
Witnesses Daniel Hipkiss and Leah Grove

22/11/1847 St Thomas Dudley
Daniel Hipkiss bach. Miner Dudleyfather William Hipkiss Nailer
Leah Grove sp. father Joseph Grove Labourer
Witnesses Joseph & Hannah Hipkiss

Grove family are already on bcc

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:13 pm
by mumbles
I think they are different William Hipkiss as Daniel's mother was Mary and Joseph's mother was Sarah

The link is probably through Grove family

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:27 am
by mumbles
IGI
Names Daniel Hipkifs
Gender Male
Christening Date 26 Feb 1826
Christening Place Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Birth Date 26 Jan 1826
Birthplace Blackheath
Father's Name William Hipkifs
Mother's Name Mary Hipkifs

and Rowley parish Registers 26th February 1826
Dan son of William & Mary Hipkiss Blackheath Nailer

Problem with Grove connection also
1841 Census Treacle Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Grove 45 Labourer
Prudance Grove 45
Eliza Grove 25
Hannah Grove 20
Joseph Grove 15
John Grove 15
Leah Grove 12
Prudance Grove 10
Thomas Grove 8
Maria Grove 4
Mary Waterhouse 15 Not born Staffs.
Elizabeth Waterhouse 1 Not born Staffs.
Mary Grove 1
Rest born Staffs.

1851 Census Treacle Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Grove Head 57 Furnace Labourer
Prudance Grove wife 60
Hannah Grove 35 (u) Hill?
Prudance Grove dau 21
Thomas Grove son 19 Furnace Labourer
Maria Grove dau 14
Mary Ann Grove dau 11
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.Staffs.

Hannah is shown as unmarried but this may be because husband in prison in Stafford in 1851 and occupation of father ties up with marriage

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:42 am
by mumbles
The Joseph Hipkiss and Hannah Grove lived in Treacle Street ( same as Joseph Grove) in 1861

Cannot find Joseph Hipkiss with father William and Mother Mary on freereg or Rowley Reg.
but can find Joseph Hipkiss with father William and mother Sarah

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:21 am
by mumbles
Found Joseph Hipkiss baptised 2/8/1826 Base born son of Mary Hipkiss born Knoll Rowley Regis Staffs.

Knoll is probably Knowle Rowley Regis

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:15 am
by Northern Lass
So the 2 girls hannah and Leah are sisters...............gottcha now....


so we have Daniel Hipkiss with that bapt mother mary..............will add that now here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =142315691


not sure on the Joseph Hipkiss bapt..............as we have him with a Wm and sarah

so maybe that is another Jospeh Hipkiss?

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:22 am
by Northern Lass
Enoch Hipkiss bapt

24 May 1836 Enpoch born Sept 22 1835 son of Willm and Sarah Hipkiss Blackheath nailer

is there not one for a Joseph Hipkiss parents Wm and sarah on Igi (cant get on igi)

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:26 am
by Northern Lass
Got it.....

in Pr..

9 April 1826 Joseph born mar 10 son of Willm and Sarah Hipkiss Blackheath nailer


so the wits on marriage connection is Grove the 2 sisters

and Daniel has parents Wm and mary

and Joseph Wm and sarah

so is this now sorted?

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:07 am
by mumbles
I think so NL if we accept that Hannah Grove in 1851 is shown as unmarried because Joseph Hipkiss her husband is in Jail

Re: Two William Hipkiss ?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:33 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:I think so NL if we accept that Hannah Grove in 1851 is shown as unmarried because Joseph Hipkiss her husband is in Jail


Sounds ok to me

will move to arc. :grin: