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COMPLETED - Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:11 pm
by mallosa
Marriage 1891
TROMANS Harry TROMANS Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/040/119
Is this Harry on BCC -
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=348232
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:39 am
by rockyfowler
10 Aug 1891
Harry TROMANS 30 B Stone Cutter King Street Dudley Father Henry Tromans (Dec) Publican
Sarah TROMANS 38 W King Street Dudley Father John Bridgewater Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Arthur Harrison / Hannah Guest X
28 Jan 1873 St Giles Rowley Regis
Henry TROMANS 41 W Carrier Village Father John Tromans Carrier
Sarah Ann Bridgewater 19 (27 crossed out) S Village Father John Bridgewater Miner
After Banns Henry Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; Joshua Woodhouse X / Martha Woodhouse X
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:46 pm
by grangers14
I dont think it is that one Mally...
But am getting a little muddled on this
He cant have married his step mum
Jo
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:51 pm
by gardener
No?
1871
Rowley Village
Henry Yeomans 36 licensed victualler
Jane Yeomans 36 norn Northfield, Worcs (all rest born RR)
George Yeomans 13
John Y Yeomans 11
Harry Yeomans 9
Louisa Yeomans 8
Annie Yeomans 6
Mary Yeomans 4
Jane Yeomans 2
Sarah Bridgwater 18 servant
1881
Henry Tromans 50 licensed victualler
Sarah Tromans 28
John Tromans 21
Henry Tromans 19 stone quarry man
Louisa Tromans 17
Jane Tromans 12
Phoebe Tromans 8
Frederick Tromans 7
David Tromans 5
Ellen Tromans 3
1891
Sarah Tromans 38 wid. licensed victualler
Hy Tromans 28 stepson stone sel maker
Jane Tromans 21
Phoebe Tromans 18
Edward Tromans 16
David Tromans 14
Ellen Tromans 12
Harriet Tromans 5
Lizzy Tromans 3
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:01 pm
by gardener
The other might be this one. he is Harry in one census at least.
1891
Samuel Adams 65
Laura Adams 62
Henry Tromans 30 son in law sett maker, Rowley Regis
Annie Adams 30 [should be ditto for Tromans]
Mary A Tromans 6
Maria Tromans 4
Sarah A Tromans 3
Richard H Tromans 11/12
1901
Henry Tromans 40
Annie Tromans 40
Mary A Tromans 16
Maria Tromans 14
Richard H Tromans 10
Eliza Tromans 9
Harriet M Tromans 1
Frank Tromans 6
William Tromans 3
Sarah Ann Tromans 13
1911
Harry Tromans 50 tea agent Rowley Regis
Annie Tromans 50 married 28 years
Henry Tromans 20
Frank Tromans 16
William Tromans 13
Maria Tromans 24
Eliza Tromans 19
Harito May Tromans 11
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:10 pm
by grangers14
gardener wrote:No?
1871
Rowley Village
Henry Yeomans 36 licensed victualler
Jane Yeomans 36 norn Northfield, Worcs (all rest born RR)
George Yeomans 13
John Y Yeomans 11
Harry Yeomans 9
Louisa Yeomans 8
Annie Yeomans 6
Mary Yeomans 4
Jane Yeomans 2
Sarah Bridgwater 18 servant
1881
Henry Tromans 50 licensed victualler
Sarah Tromans 28
John Tromans 21
Henry Tromans 19 stone quarry man
Louisa Tromans 17
Jane Tromans 12
Phoebe Tromans 8
Frederick Tromans 7
David Tromans 5
Ellen Tromans 3
1891
Sarah Tromans 38 wid. licensed victualler
Hy Tromans 28 stepson stone sel maker
Jane Tromans 21
Phoebe Tromans 18
Edward Tromans 16
David Tromans 14
Ellen Tromans 12
Harriet Tromans 5
Lizzy Tromans 3
1901. 49 Rowley Village,Rowley Regis,
Sarah,head, W, 46,
Frederick, son, 26, Quarryman stone getter,
David, son, 24, Shoeing smith,
Harriet, dair, 15,
Lizzie, daur, 13,
All born Rowley Regis
1911. 49 Village, Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans, head, 58, married 38 years, 6 children, 5 living
Lizzie Howard, daughter, 23, married under 1 year
Jesse Howard, son in law, 24, Grocers shop manager, Halesowen (Gorsty Hill crossed out)
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:14 pm
by gardener
1882
ADAMS Annie TROMANS Henry Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/007/469
could that be checked?
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:17 pm
by grangers14
Will. 1893
Tromans Harry of Rowley village, Rowley Regis Staffordshire, Inn keeper died 21 February1893. Administation Litchfield 24th March to John Thomas Tromans stone dresser Effects £12
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:21 pm
by grangers14
gardener wrote:1882
ADAMS Annie TROMANS Henry Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/007/469
could that be checked?
From Freereg
4th September 1882. St Andrew Netherton
Henry Tromans, 20, B, Rowley, Quarry man, Henry Tromans, Rivet maker
Annie Adams, 23, S, Blackheath, Samuel Adams, Labourer
Witnesses, Thomas Jones and Mary Jones
They are on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=348273
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:23 pm
by gardener
Sorry! The Tromans/Adams one is here already
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=348273with the father a different Henry
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:57 pm
by gardener
grangers14 wrote:I dont think it is that one Mally...
But am getting a little muddled on this
He cant have married his step mum
Jo
Maybe he did!
28 Jan 1873 St Giles Rowley Regis
Henry TROMANS 41 W Carrier Village Father John Tromans Carrier
Sarah Ann Bridgewater 19 (27 crossed out) S Village Father John Bridgewater Miner
After Banns Henry Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; Joshua Woodhouse X / Martha Woodhouse X
is this one for sure
1881
Henry Tromans 50 licensed victualler
Sarah Tromans 28
John Tromans 21
Henry Tromans 19 stone quarry man
Louisa Tromans 17
Jane Tromans 12
Phoebe Tromans 8
Frederick Tromans 7
David Tromans 5
Ellen Tromans 3
Joshua and Martha Woodhouse (marriage witnesses) were living next door in 1881.
The Henry Snr dies, Sarah is a widow in 1891
1891
Sarah Tromans 38 wid. licensed victualler
Hy Tromans 28 stepson stone sel maker
Jane Tromans 21
Phoebe Tromans 18
Edward Tromans 16
David Tromans 14
Ellen Tromans 12
Harriet Tromans 5
Lizzy Tromans 3
Widowed Sarah marries her stepson
10 Aug 1891
Harry TROMANS 30 B Stone Cutter King Street Dudley Father Henry Tromans (Dec) Publican
Sarah TROMANS 38 W King Street Dudley Father John Bridgewater Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Arthur Harrison / Hannah Guest X
But then does Henry Jnr die too?
1901
49 Rowley Village
Sarah Tromans 46 wid
Frederick Tromans 26
David Tromans 24
Harriet Tromans 15
Lizzie Tromans 13
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:06 pm
by gardener
Deaths
1882
TROMANS Henry Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/40/424 [FreeBMD image could have age as 51]
1893
TROMANS Harry Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/52/391 [FreeBMD age is 32 on image]
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:15 pm
by gardener
1911
Sarah Tromans 58 (says married 38 years, crossed out, but the no. years married matches the 1873 marriage)
Lizzie Howard 23
Jesse Howard 24
Think Jesse could be this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=3482731911
TROMANS Lizzie HOWARD Jesse Cradley Heath, Tabernacle Methodist Chapel - Old Hill Sandwell Register Office 86/1/11
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:22 pm
by gardener
Sarah Tromans, 49 of the Village Rowley Regis, Staffordshie, widow died 17 Jan 1918
Probate London 28 August to David Tromans tube blacksmith and Jesse Howard grocer's assistant.
Effects 587 pounds 4 s
Re: Tromans/Tromans connection?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:18 pm
by grangers14
Little/lot confusing isn't it?
I just kept getting back to Sarah Bridgewater...but the address for her 2nd says Dudley. But that isnt unusual to change address to be married.
Jo