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Emanuel Williams born about 1834 Ridgacre Halesowen Shropshire (later Worcestershire).
1841 Manuel Williams living with his parents George Lloyd Williams and Phoebe Williams nee Price.
1861 idem ditto
1871 living in Northfield as a lodger.
I cant find him on the 1851 census!!
Can anyone help me?

1851
54
Lapal Houses, Lapal, Halesowen
George William 51 - Stone Mason - b (looks like Carters Lane), Halesowen
Pahebey William 42 - Nailor - b (looks like Carters Lane), Halesowen
Ember William 15 - Nailor - b (looks like Carters Lane), Halesowen
America William 15 - Nailor - b (looks like Carters Lane), Halesowen (Emanuel)
William William 13
Isabella William 11
George William 9
Thirza William 5
Prudence William 2
others b Ridgeacre

Thanks Farside.
Still no sign of Emanuel on the 1851 census then?
I wonder where he was?

Ah yes I see now, first glance Amendah/America on the 51 does look like Emanela/Emanuel, does say daug tho..
Extracted
AMENDAH WILLIAMS
Birth: 15 JUN 1835 Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Parents:
Father: GEORGE WILLIAMS
Mother: PHOEBE

EMILY WILLIAMS
Birth: 15 JUN 1835 Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Parents:
Father: GEORGE WILLIAMS
Mother: PHOEBE

Sorry, don't see him on the 51

Thanks for those dates of birth.I thought they were twins but i wasn't sure because sometimes,or so i've been told,the information on the census forms are not always correct and you have to verify the names and dates of birth before believing it!!
Thanks Farside!! xx
Still no sign of Manny on the 1851 though!
Prison?

Rob wrote:Thanks for those dates of birth.I thought they were twins but i wasn't sure because sometimes,or so i've been told,the information on the census forms are not always correct and you have to verify the names and dates of birth before believing it!!
Thanks Farside!! xx
Still no sign of Manny on the 1851 though!
Prison?

and you would still be wrong to jump to that conclusion Roberto!

cos you must bear in mind that they could just have been bapt on the same day!

So you need to follow thru the dob on census as no birth regis doc as 1835ish so pre civil regis
and
find marriage doc...ages might be on there
and deaths...ages on death cert..

EMANUEL WILLIAMS.
Christening, 12 MAY 1833, Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
GEORGE WILLIAMS.
PHOEBE.

I've found him!!!
1851 46 Moors Street Northfield.
George Riley head 46 Bricklayer
Mary Ann Riley wife 20 Nailmaker
Epharam Riley son 4 months
Edmund(looks also like Emanuel) Williams 18 lodger nailmaker
Thomas Willer(could even be Williams) 33 lodger.

Mary Ann Riley is probably Mary Ann Williams Emanuel's sister born 1830.Can't find a marriage for the moment for her and George Riley but i'm 99% certain. Can anyone find a marriage of George Riley-Mary Ann Williams?

Extracted.

GEORGE RYLEY.
MARY ANN WILLIAMS.
Marriage, 26 AUG 1849, Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick.

Jimmy!! xx

Rob wrote:I've found him!!!
1851 46 Moors Street Northfield.
George Riley head 46 Bricklayer
Mary Ann Riley wife 20 Nailmaker
Epharam Riley son 4 months
Edmund(looks also like Emanuel) Williams 18 lodger nailmaker
Thomas Willer(could even be Williams) 33 lodger.

Mary Ann Riley is probably Mary Ann Williams Emanuel's sister born 1830.Can't find a marriage for the moment for her and George Riley but i'm 99% certain. Can anyone find a marriage of George Riley-Mary Ann Williams?

Well done Rob

Yeh, well done Rob! I'm dead impressed

This now looks Completed

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