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If NL thought James Mills born 1781 thread was complicated she must try this one

1881 Census 6 New Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Abraham Sidaway Head 54 Chain Maker
Mary Sidaway wife 53 Chain Maker
Phoebe Sidaway dau 29 Chain Maker
Mary A. Sidaway dau 26 Chain Maker
Ephraim Sidaway son 23 Chain Maker
Jemima Sidaway dau 17
Dina Sidaway dau 12
Alice Sidaway dau 3
All born Dudley Worcs.

1891 Census 6 New Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Abraham Sidaway Head 63 Chain Maker born Dudley Worcs.
Mary Sidaway wife 63 Chain Maker born Quarry Bank Staffs.
Phoebe Sidaway dau 33 Chain Maker
Ephraim Sidaway son 27 Chain Maker
Dina Sidaway dau 12

Jan has added this Abraham but no Census Details
Note dau Mary Ann is not on 1891 Census

Complication 1) is that their is another Abraham Sidaway of same age living in same street and with a daughter Mary Ann of same age who marries Thomas Price in 1873 and Like first Abraham the family are all Chain Makers

Complcation 2) Alice Aged 3 on 1881 Census is I believe dau. of Mary Ann Sidaway not dau of her mother Mary

because Mary Ann Sidaway marries a John Hubble Christ Church Quarry Bank 1884 and Alice appears as Alice Hubble aged 13 in 1891 Census
1891 Census 8 Garratts Lane Old Hill Rowley Regis Staffs.
John Hubble Head 30 Boatman born Dudley Worcs.
Mary A. Hubble wife 36
Alice Hubble dau 13 Scholar
Lois Hubble dau 5 Scholar
Benjamin Hubble son 2
Beatrice Hubble dau 2 mths.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Complication 3)
Mary Ann Hubble marries William Nutt St. James Dudley 1899 and Hubble children are with them on 1901 Census in same house as 1901 Census

1901 Census 8 Garratts Lane Old Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Nutt Head 48 Coal Miner Hewer Under Ground born Dudley Worcs.
Mary A. Nutt wife 46
Joseph Nutt son 17 Coal Miner Hewer Labourer
Louise Hubble step.dau 15 Iron Chain Maker
Beatrice Hubble step.dau 10
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1911 Census 264 Halesowen Road Old Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Nutt Head 58 Coal Miner Hewer born Halesowen Road Netherton Worcs.
Mary A. Nutt wife 56 born Pear Tree Old Hill Staffs.
Married 11 years , 1 child 1 living
Beatrice Nutt dau 20 born Garratts Lane Old Hill Staffs.
Note Beatrice now a Nutt not a Hubble

Complication 4) & 5) John Hubble and William Nutt were married before marrying Mary Ann Sidaway but will need to research more to confirm

complication 2, Alice is noted as Mary Anns daughter and unknown father on BCC. So looks like that is sorted.
Jo )

Complication 4 &5
possible marriage??

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
NUTT William HUBBLE Mary A Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/012/499

1881. 1 Plant Street, Rowley Regis.
William Nutt, head, 28, Coal miner, Dudley
Esther, wife, 27, chain maker
Loiss, daur,, 6
Sylvia, daur, 1
All others born Rowley Regis

Transcribed as Hutt.
1891. 16 Plant Street, Rowley Regis.
William Nutt, head, 38, Coal miner, Worcestershire NK
Esther, wife, 37, chain maker,
Lois, daur, 16,
Lilly, daur, 11,
Joseph Nutt, son, 6,
Pheoby, daur, 3
All others born Rowley Regis

John Hubbles marriage states he was a bachelor?

Deaths Dec 1896.
Nutt Esther. 43. Dudley. 6c. 6.

Thanks grangers14 and Jimmy

I have added but cannot find marriage William Nutt to Esther other than one in Rotherham 1873

have found correct John Hubble and added he was a bach.

daughter of William Nutt and Esther Unknown is shown as Sylvia or Lilly on 1881 and 1891 Census but married Walter Benjamin Rock ( on bcc) as Lillie Sylvia Nutt
I have marriage and will add tomorrow